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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think this season has been pretty good.  I did not love the zava line so glad he’s gone, and I really dislike the Nate story as well as the hostess.  He’s just never been a compelling character to me and I know they are setting him up for a redemption but I just would never trust him — the weird spitting to turn himself into a tough guy.    I have a particular bias against those jerks who think they are nice guys and blame the world for not recognizing that they are really nice guys or appreciating them—they are the ones that always say “nice guys finish last” when the truth is that they just aren’t very nice, and are confusing low self esteem for niceness.  That’s Nate.

I’m also not loving the Jack/keeley thing — it seems random and also really unprofessional of both of them, but particularly for keeley who can’t really afford to piss off her one investor.  I thought she was smarter than that.  I love the shandy scenes though — truly hysterical.

Jamie is also having a great character arc and one which seems true to who he has always been.  [/quote]

I think you are misinterpreting Nate’s spitting. I don’t think it’s about being a tough guy. I think it is about feeling worthless. The first time we see him do it, he does it to his own reflection. [/quote]

+1
He has such deep self-loathing, thanks to his dad first and foremost.  The team harassing him in the beginning didn't help either.  He's probably always been on the outside looking in and Ted changed all of that.  And then "betrayed" him (in Nate's skewed perspective).  I love the way Ted isn't out for vengeance against Nate - he didn't want the team to see the recording of Nate ripping the "Believe" sign even though they saw it anyway.  Somehow, Ted is kind enough to recognize deep hurt and want to help.[/quote]

Totally agree with this. I’m curious how people will respond if it goes this way, though. A lot of people view TV, especially, in black and white terms. Nate’s a villain now, so he’s bad. Even though if you look at the situation objectively, he hasn’t even done anything that wrong. He felt overlooked at Richmond so took a job with a competitor. Was he supposed to stay an assistant coach (to people who didn’t really seem to value his contributions)? He’s said some not nice things about Ted that Ted didn’t really deserve. He wears black and doesn’t smile a lot. He tore up that sign.

On the other side, his dad is a disapproving jerk to him, and his coworkers ignored or diminished him for years. He has self confidence issues and doesn’t seem very happy. Rupert is using him to get back at his ex-wife and does not actually care for him.

If you think it through, Nate’s a very sympathetic character. And a lot of the people at Richmond who took him for granted and never really saw him or appreciated him even when he was working hard to help them, probably deserve is anger.

I’m curious if Ted will be able to successfully get people to see that. I think most people are reluctant to change their minds on someone once they’ve written them off.[/quote]

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