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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.[/quote]

+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.[/quote]

No, statistically those posters are correct and you are not. [/quote]

PP here. You can quote statistics, but it's not a rare occurrence for unmedicated individuals with schizophrenia to experienced paranoia and become aggressive. (I didn't say most.)[/quote]

A. This poster actually has no idea whether or not her neighbor is unmedicated. None. Zip. Zero. I realize the armchair mental health warriors here strongly believe that if people with schizophrenia just took their meds, they would act normal. That is not the case.

B. It is nowhere near common enough to justify calling the police just because a person is behaving in an unseemly way in public. What exactly do you think the cops are going to do?[/quote]

Sadly, there are many men and women walking the streets of big cities because people think it's a better life than being in long-term care in a hospital or group home. I strongly disagree.[/quote]

Have you been in long-term care in a hospital or a group home?[/quote]

I'm not mentally ill but have an older family member who was hospitalized for all of his adult life. I also work in the special education field.  [/quote]

So the answer is no.[/quote]

The answer is "yes" I have been inside one. The answer is "no" I haven't been institutionalized. [/quote]

No, you have never been “in long-term care in a hospital or group home.” Having been physically inside a facility is not a relevant qualification for an opinion on this topic.[/quote]

You were having difficulty understanding my response, so I gave you clarification. [/quote]

I was having no difficulty understanding that you were engaged in obfuscation. Of course physicians’ opinions would be relevant. The opinion of someone who has merely visited these facilities ain’t that.[/quote]

I told you I work in the specoal education field. Yes, my work involves teens and adults who require long-term instotutional and/or group home and psychiatric care. [/quote]

That's great. It has nothing to do with your qualifications for having an opinion about what anyone else should be forced to do because you think it's a "better life" than the life they are living now.

If your services and proposed course of treatment can't be made attractive enough to draw these folks in voluntarily, and keep them there, you have a model that is either going to require an even bigger carceral state to achieve or you have a model that will never work. Maybe both. [/quote]

How about they make a decision about what’s a better life when they’re medicated and rational instead of in the grip of a psychotic episode. People are such effing ignorant-yet-opinionated idiots about psychosis. It’s not diversity day it’s a fu*king medical problem and it is inhumane not to get them treatment.[/quote]

I think there's someone posting here who has mental health challenges and is very resistant to interventions due to past treatments that were unsuccessful. [/quote]

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