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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban

[quote]An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.[/quote]

Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states? [/quote]

How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.[/quote]

I live in Virginia.  My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic).  Of course I wasn't referred to PP.[/quote]

Because it was ectopic. You don’t see the difference?[/quote]
You do know that several red states are not allowing exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, right?[/quote]
Lucky for the PP, SCOTUS hadn't overturned R v W in 2018 when they needed abortion.  [/quote]I never had or would have an abortion[/quote]

I'm the PP who had the ectopic.  It was a VERY much wanted pregnancy (FET).  It would have killed me, and left my older DD motherless.  
You'd rather die?[/quote]

Which state bans treatment for ectopic pregnancies? Show me the law, not a “what-if” opinion piece. I’ll wait. [/quote]

Here’s a good summary that talks about state laws. I don’t expect this PP to genuinely learn anything, but others might find the information useful or interesting. It looks like a few state laws do specifically exclude ectopic pregnancy from their definition of “abortion.” Oklahoma only counts it as an abortion if there’s electrical activity on a scan. Others don’t mention ectopic pregnancies one way or the other but that means in practice that ectopic pregnancy is included. (Apparently Missouri lawmakers proposed a law that explicitly makes treating an ectopic pregnancy into a felony, but the bill did not advance.)

https://www.insider.com/guides/health/reproductive-health/are-ectopic-pregnancy-abortions-banned?amp

From what I’ve read elsewhere, states with general bans are assumed to include ectopic pregnancy. At the same time, there’s usually an assumption that it would fit into “health or life of the mother” exceptions because of the extremely high threat of complications if the pregnancy is allowed to grow. But, aside from the bigger problem of doctors scared to act without truly clear threats, a few anti-abortion groups have argued that, because *occasionally* the embryo seems to be naturally absorbed back into the mother’s body without incident, ectopic pregnancies don’t represent a true medical threat. [/quote]

There is no link to the actual law.[/quote]

I'll make an attempt here...LMGTFY:

https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/111/Bill/SB1257.pdf

Note items (b) and (c) under section 2.  Any abortion, no matter the reasoning, is considered a felony offense, and it is on the defendant to PROVE (affirmative defense) that the abortion was justified to save the life of the mother.
RAlso note that, in section 2, (a)(1), there is no reference to saving the life of the mother.

Additionally, here's an article about another bill being put forth by [b]Republican[/b] Richard Briggs to try to clarify this so that doctors are not automatically criminally charged.  It is being shelve because he's still trying to drum up sufficient support.  Note that Tennessee Right to Life is fighting all of these potential modifications.  They want no exceptions.
https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/02/28/abortion-physician-affirmative-defense-bill-on-hold/[/quote]

Also, note that in section 2, part a, they define pregnancy as occurring from the point of fertilization, which for those of you who need a biology refresher, occurs PRIOR TO implantation.  So, ladies, in Tennessee you're actually pregnant the moment that sperm penetrates the lining of the egg, before the embryo even implants in your uterine lining (or elsewhere, for ectopics)...which is news to me, and likely most people who know anything about the reproductive cycle.[/quote]
But but but I hit control-F for “ectopic” and the law doesn’t mention it so it must be OK! /sarcasm[/quote]
 :lol:  +1[/quote]

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