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[quote=Anonymous]The Russian Government appears to be turning against the ultranationalists and vice versa? Possible inflection point? ""Discrediting" the army can currently be punished by up to five years in prison, while spreading knowingly false information about it can attract a 15-year jail sentence." https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-law-amendments-punish-discrediting-military-including-voluntary-2023-03-01 This means that Russian propagandists could be severely punished for posting videos such as these: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1631601839467552770 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2LmhrtAgs https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1631328700586246144 https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1631534108177211394?cxt=HHwWhICxzZHor6QtAAAA [9:30 / 10;40] Naumov (Expert at the Russian International Affairs Council): "If the goals of the Russian special operations had been achieved, there would be no need for a Chinese peace plan. Unfortunately this is happening not because everything is going great." If the plan is what the Chinese say it is, [mimicking marching with a flag] calling progressive humanity to march behind them." [Discussion increases pace with multiple comments.] "And we, anong with the rest of a progressive humanity are following behind China. Does Russia deserve to play a supportive role behind the Republic of China?" "But why can't we walk along side of China? Why can't we walk together with China?" "Because we won't be able to move against China's political and economic interests, and will be too dependent on Beijing, unfortunately." "Everyone depends on everyone else." Andrey Norkin (state TV host): "According to your logic, if this program is being hosted by two hosts.." Host2 "They cant act together, only against each other." Norkin: "They should cause problems for each other. spit into each other's coffee, and there is no other way." "Still one of them is more important than another. I don't know which one." [laughter] Normally Lavrov is a pretty cool customer in front of crowds. Notice the unconscious left hand thumb nervousness throughout, and eye blinks when the crowd laughed and he repeated "influenced" three times. Lavrov: "You know, uh, the war, uh, which, uh, we are trying to stop, which was launched against us, using the..." [laughter from the crowd] "...The Ukrainian people, uh, of course, it influenced, influenced, influenced, policy of Russia, including the emerging policy..." https://www.yahoo.com/news/crowd-erupts-laughter-russias-top-180331126.html This tends to negate the comments from Dmitri Kosyrev (Asia expert) in the China video at [7:40 / 10:40]. "Right now in Delhi, Westerners have nothing to say". Apparently he didn't know Lavrov got laughed at at the conference or that 100 diplomats walked out on Lavrov's UN speech Mar 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/11gywti/more_than_100_diplomats_from_40_countries_walking/ Not sure if you recall military training being re-instituted in Russian 10th and 11th grades, but now the stress seem to be creeping down to Middle School level as well. This is what a Russian teacher yelled into her 15 year-old-student's face (from the gist, the kid was late to a Defender of the Fatherland Day ceremony/event?]: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en Approx 7th video down. [0:00 / 7:30] "I've already telephoned you mother. Why do we need a traitor? You're a traitor. Why are you late?" [..] [0:55 / 7:30] "Get the hell out of here. Starting tomorrow, you can't come to the classroom. You're a traitor." [..] [1:40 / 7:30] "Then when you will be a traitor, they'll make a personal file and tell the class teacher to write a description. I will write that you're a bastard. Since the eighth grade since February 21, 2023" [6:00 / 7:30] "When they make a personal file for you and ask your class leader for a record, I'll write that you're a bastard. From 8th grade, from 21 February 2023 he became a bastard in my eyes." "what else?" "Tomorrow we will choose a new class, and you won't be studying here anymore."[/quote]
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