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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Postscript: I am a big fan of humility. I cannot prove my side, and you cannot prove your side.

If G-d wanted His existence to be provable, He could easily make it so, as in the Bible. Why doesn't He?

I have a number of theories on the topic, but mainly it boils down to me being a mortal humans who will never have all the answers in life.

As for how being religious makes you happy, if you read my piece about travel with family being an atonement for sin, it's a meaningful reframe of life that often comes along with a sense of community.

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God proved his existence to us in so many ways. Some people just chose to ignore the evidence. [/quote]

Where is this evidence?[/quote]

I see evidence God exists in the world He created.

Do you have evidence I don’t see God in the world He created? If you do, well, that’s news to me. You could not be more wrong. [/quote]

Oh, I don’t doubt you believe you see it

I also don’t doubt that you don’t see the presupposition of what you typed. That’s not how evidence works. What couldn’t be given credit for the origin of the universe with that logic? I see the evidence of the Loch Ness monster in the world, the Loch Ness monster created. See?[/quote]

We’ve had this conversation how many times?

Evidence is not needed nor could any evidence prove or disprove God.

We don’t have tests, measurements, tools, or scientific knowledge to measure God.

You are asking repeatedly for evidence, and I give the same answer consistently correct answer, over and over again.

Sorry you can’t come to terms with reality.

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You didn’t answer the question.  And you never do.  Wonder why that is?[/quote]

Science doesn't have the processes to prove or disprove the existence of God. Science studies and attempts to explain only the natural world.

Scientists don't try to prove or disprove God's existence because they know there isn't an experiment that can ever detect God. And if you believe in God, it doesn't matter what scientists discover about the Universe.

Why would belief in God require that science give a specific answer to this question, that we don’t  know the answer to, and probably will never know?

Science is an amazing, wonderful undertaking: it teaches us about life, the world and the universe. But [b]it has not revealed to us why the universe came into existence n[/b]or what preceded its birth in the Big Bang. Biological evolution has not brought us the slightest understanding of how the first living organisms emerged from inanimate matter on this planet and how the advanced eukaryotic cells—the highly structured building blocks of advanced life forms—ever emerged from simpler organisms. Neither does it explain one of the greatest mysteries of science: how did consciousness arise in living things? Where do symbolic thinking and self-awareness come from? What is it that allows humans to understand the mysteries of biology, physics, mathematics, engineering and medicine? And what enables us to create great works of art, music, architecture and literature? Science is nowhere near to explaining these deep mysteries.

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Science does Not yet know why the universe came into existence - but it's working on it.   Pp is really into "God of the Gaps" stuff.[/quote]

This goes to the fundamental misunderstanding of God.  Science cannot "find" or "prove" God because science is about detecting and understanding this world.  [b]God is outside of this world (and creator of this world)[/b].  The creator cannot be proved and isolated by tools of his creation.  However, you can look at the creation and deduce certain characteristics about its creator.  For example, the grandness and exuberance of the universe, the beauty of art/music/earth, the logic and beauty of mathematics, the love between people.  Look deep into anything and I believe you will find proof of God.  To believe that all these things are random is a greater leap of faith imo.  Look deep into the human soul and its battle with itself and its complexity and nothing explains it adequately or satisfyingly except Christianity. [/quote]

Fairies and elves are also outside this world.  They are created by storytellers - and believed by children, for a while.[/quote]

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