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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Contrary to many other posts, there's really no way anyone can advise you on a course of action without knowing what "pretty bad" means.  [/quote]

Agree, if the pledge is uncomfortable and in danger, report and drop.  If the kid is just pissed for having to clean up the house after a party or drive a drunk brother home (the right thing to do) than a whole other story...technically "hazing" but part of the deal and if it bothers him than a fraternity probably is not for him.[/quote]

He was fully prepared for that kind of thing.  No this is forced eating of horrible stuff  with vomit of 40 guys for hours ensuing that were allowed only the floor to do so then “activities” in the vomit.  Literally all day everyone yelling at you you’re a piece of shit, etc.  yes stupid stuff like driving he could care less about that.  He actually believes one guy is psychotic/sociopath.  It’s 7 weeks.  Severe, dangerous sleep deprivation.  10 guys left after first night.  I want him to quit but has to come from him.  We’d wholeheartedly support him and he has the confidence to quit. He is well- liked, has a lot of friends, a girlfriend, has a good future ahead of him

The comment about, if he stays, doing this to others was something we talked about last night.  He’s worried about that.  He also said he’s “mentally tough” but I reminded him none of us know where are breaking point may be. [/quote]

OP, I would press hard on him to quit under these circumstances.  Reassure him that it doesn't mean that his isn't "mentally tough".  Instead, it means that he has respect for himself and others and isn't willing to be treated this way, watch others be treated this way, or treat others this way in future years.  Assure him (and get his father to assure him if possible) that dropping out isn't a sign that he isn't a real man - it is a sign that he is a real man.[/quote]

+1  It isn't mentally tough to be a follower. He's a sheep. [/quote]

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