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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No, it's an amazing school. And it's funny that people think it's become less meritocratic--it's quite the opposite (same as most other elite schools). Used to be (1950s-60s and earlier) if you were a reasonably well-off, high achieving student you could assume you could get in. Add in legacy and you were golden. There just wasn't that much competition. Opening it up to diversity increased the pool and increased the competition. Just look at accomplishments over time and the acceptance rate. (Same story at many elite institutions). This has been a steady rise to this point. [/quote] These people assume that as a school becomes less white it becomes less meritocratic. That’s the only way to demonstrate merit- don’t admit minorities. [/quote] Oh please. The data is public for all to see. Harvard is 90+% either a) very wealthy and not the brightest or b) not the brighest but having the desired skin color. Only 10% or so are there on their true merits. Again, the data is public thanks to the Harvard discrimination case. Look it up.[/quote] I’d like you to do the math on that. The Harvard data simply says 43% of white admits are ALDC. white admits make up roughly 40% of the class. URMs are about 27%. Asian Americans make up 25%. 55% get grants from Harvard to attend. 19% get Pell grants. 20% of parents do not contribute anything to their student’s education. That’s a lot of numbers but to summarize, you’re full of sh*t. [/quote] 67% of the Harvard class comes from the top 20% of family income. Only 4% come from the bottom 20%. That's not a system built on merit to attract the brightest. It's a closed club to attract the rich, ideally bright enough, plus some token minorities, plus a sprinkle of the real brightest.[/quote]
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