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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]10-12 APs?! Jeez. Sounds impossible to get in.[/quote]

Nah.  My kid hit that pretty easily, without being some overstressed, study at midnight, brilliant academic rockstar.

10: World History and Human Geo
11: APUSH, European, English Lang,  Latin
12:  Macro, Micro, English Lit, US Gov, Comp Gov

That’s 11. Clearly a humanities kid. Not doing anything special at her HS— in fact, stood out in her class for avoiding AP STEM classes (took non-AP Calc) and piling on the humanities.  The key for her was going for literally every AP in her area of interest and not struggling for a year (maybe with tutoring) to pull out a kinda okay grade in math or science.

34 ACT, which hits Langley’s media

Attending WM. Did not apply to UVA. [/quote]

WM is much, much easier to get into. [/quote]

Not in the last couple of years. Our HS had 4.3+/1500s locked out last year. RD admission was a bloodbath— and that’s looking at the top 10-15% of the class. They will take different kids though. UVA wants the APs across all five core subjects, cares more aBout GPA than test scores and doesn’t cut ED much of a break.  WM really likes ED applicants considers test scores more (or did pre-COVID) and likes the the interesting, pointy kids like PP who went very deep In some areas and less so in another.  Different schools, different admissions philosophies.

I know ED apps to WM were up 25% this year over last.  So it’s going to be another tough year for admissions.

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The fact that WM is selective does not mean it is as selective as UVA. [/quote]

Okay. UVA wins. Grand Pooh nah school of the World. But if it takes 11 APs to get into WM, seems like 10-12 is low for UVA. Probably more like 14.   And if 4.3/1500s are bEIng rejected, from WM, you woUld need 4.4-4.5 for UVA. Yes?[/quote]

Yes, it is statistically more difficult to get into UVAz the 75th percentile of enrolled students last year had a 4.53 gpa, ACT of 34 and sat of 1520. That’s the stats for enrolled, not admitted students (stats of admitted are higher -some students pick Ivies or SLACs over UVA). W&Ms stats are slightly lower across the board [/quote]

[b]At the 75th percentile, both W&M and UVA were at 1520 for SAT and 34 for ACT last year[/b].  GPA was 4.53 at UVA and 4.51 at  W&M.[/quote]

OK, Two can play the game of selective statistics  While those two SAT and ACT figures are the same, W&M comes under UVA in five other categories:  UVA median GPA for enrolled students was a 4.40 and a 4.33 for W&M.  UVA bottom 25th percentile was a 4.24 and a 4.15 for W&M.  UVA median SAT was a 1470 and W&M had a 1460 . The bottom 25th percentile had a 1400 at UVA and a 1375 at W&M.  And of course GPA at the 75th percentile is a 4.53 and 4.52 at W&M.[/quote]

The PP had cited 75th percentile for UVA and did not provide for W&M.  Just pointing out they are pretty much the same at the 75th.  
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But you chose only two categories out of nine. The other seven have W&M below UVA, statistically. [b]This goes to a PPs comment that it is more difficult to get into W&M.[/b] It is not[/quote]

No PP said that.  You made that up.
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+1.  I said my DD has a friend who got into UVA but not WM.  But that’s one kid is a sea of applications.

I have had two kids go through this, and seen their friends do it as well.  IME (and I haven’t dug through the stats for a couple of years), WM is definitely easier to get into ED than UVA. WM gives a strong ED preference. UVA does not. (It also easier for men to get into WM than UVA always, but let’s see what SCOTUS’s affirmative action case says. That could change). WM ED is  getting interesting, though, because the secret is out and kids are watching peers rejections and trying to lock down a top tier state school.   WM had a 25% increase in ED apps over last year, but only a 10% increase in admissions (presumably this is ED1 only.

In the RD pool *for instate* WM vs UVA, it seems like admissions is pretty close. I know a lot of kids who got into.both or rejected by both in RD. Not a lot of in WM not UVA.

I don’t have a handle on how the UVA EA pool plays into this though. [/quote]

Uh, the affirmative action case is about race, not gender.  It will have zero impact on male/female ratios. [/quote]

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