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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MORE teacher whining? Really? [/quote]
This is OP.  Not a troll.   This reply is what I'm talking about.  Teachers are overworked and underpaid.  But parents and administrators don't and won't acknowledge it and just tell them they're whining and demand more and more.

So, we shouldn't be surprised when good teachers leave the field and you are left with under qualified teachers teaching your children and your children get a weaker education.
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Please read the post at 11:46 - do you disagree?

The teachers I know IRL seem to have little perspective on jobs that are not teaching, which is frustrating.  Back in August 2020, when our school district’s plan for virtual was revealed, I told a good friend, who is a teacher, how unrealistic it was and that parents wouldn’t be able to support their kids adequately.  And she told me that parents’ employers would just have to understand and give them flexibility.  Say what?  That’s… not how it worked.[/quote]

I recall a DCUM thread not too long ago about how many hours professionals *actually* work in a week. Tons of people responded: 15 hours, 2-3 “real” work hours a day, 30 hours on a busy week, etc. Many admitted to doing no real work at their WFH jobs.
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I work 65+ as a teacher. I do 30+ hours a week of presentations. [/b]I am responsible for the progress of 150 students.

You’re right. I don’t think many professions work as hard as I do. I‘m sure some do, perhaps some of you on this thread. I’m confident most don’t.

Am I complaining? No. But I’m not going to accept nonsense about how easy my job is. [/quote]

8-4 M-F is no where close to 65 hours a week. Drive by most schools at 4 and the parking lots are empty. [/quote]

I’m actually a midlife career changer considering TFA and elementary or middle school teaching. I’ve begun second guessing if I want to go this path, because I drive by an elementary school on my way home from my hospice care job and every weeknight excepting Fridays there are at least two dozen cars in the lot and the school lit up inside at 6:30pm when I drive by. I know they start the day around 7-7:30, so that’s an 11 hour day not counting work brought home.

I already spent a couple of decades working 70-90 hours weeks routinely as I put myself through academic training and as an attorney working in legal aid and later the criminal justice system. Weeks when I had trial prep I was easily in 100 hours territory. It’s not a good quality of life to work that many hours and my health suffered a great deal.

I need a couple more years in a government or nonprofit job to get the rest of my student loans forgiven. I am considering applying for a job as a school custodian as that seems like the only guarantee of working reasonable hours and still qualifying for PSLF. [/quote]

Why do you keep choosing low paying jobs with long hours?[/quote]

DP.
Sometimes it isn’t about the money. I posted earlier in this thread about the ridiculous hours I have to work to get the minimum done for my classroom. I have never once argued for more pay. I want more reasonable hours. I’ll never break 100K in my district, even with my advanced degrees. Fine. Just please reevaluate my workload so I have more than 4 hours of unscheduled time a week to plan, grade, update reports, respond to emails, attend meetings, cover for sick teachers, etc. I am “on stage” in my high school classroom 34 hours a week. (Plus, being “on” and in front of 150 people for so many hours is emotionally and physically exhausting.) I need more time “off stage” to do the other half of my job. Again: this isn’t about pay. [/quote]

But you knew going into the profession what the hours were, right?  [/quote]

DP. A lot if it was hidden until the last few teachers. Teachers were afraid to complain. Now that it’s more visible, the lack of work-life balance is driving college students away from education as a major.[/quote]

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