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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Find another time to exchange gift that is not religious.

Xmas has nothing to do with gifts.[/quote]

The gifts aren’t religious, and it’s a family tradition. We don’t get together as a family much due to logistics and this is the one time a year we are all together. [/quote]

Traditions can change. You can do a family get together with gifts another time. In my family, as people married and had families, we moved our big event to Columbus Day weekend and made it Halloween themed. I know others who do a winter solstice celebration.

But if they aren’t important enough to figure out a different plan, then you have to respect their wishes. [/quote]

No, they don't have to change their long standing traditions;4 to appease non believers. BIL will have to just learn to roll with it. Why does everyone have to kowtow to him?[/quote]

Because that’s what people who love each other do. They look at creative ways of managing differences. No one will be hurt by moving gift giving Another time. But some will be hurt by not trying to find a compromise. [/quote]

And some will be hurt by not being able to continue the traditions, despite your glossing over that obvious fact. What compromise is BIL making? None so far. [/quote]

NP. BIL is compromising by participating in a Christmas gathering, because he knows spending time with family and cousin time and sharing a meal are all good things. That’s something he can do—show up to a Christmas celebration. What he can’t do is allow his kids to get Christmas gifts. See how he is, indeed, compromising and meeting people halfway for the sake of spending time together?

Team BIL.[/quote]

Yes, he can allow his kid to get a friggin Christmas gift.  He absolutely can.  It means nothing.  It certainly has nothing to do with believing in God.

The guy is a controlling dick.   [/quote]
It is a privilege of being Christian (even if secular) to think that Christmas gifts are not religious. They may be meant "culturally" but the exchange is still rooted in Christianity, which BIL is opposed to. He values family enough to come to the gathering and be together, even when he is against the holiday. Why isn't that enough? Raising a child outside of Christianity is a valid parenting choice.[/quote]

It is a perfectly valid parenting choice for someone with a stick up his ass.   You’re right about that.

Nobody is saying he should baptize his kid, send him to CCD, and turn him into a priest.  They’re saying let his damned grandmother put a gift under a tree for him like a normal grandmother does and like normal son-in-law should respect.  There are bigger issues in the world.  The guy sounds exhausting, and he sounds like a prick. [/quote]
There are plenty of opportunities for "normal grandmothers" to lavish gifts on their grandchildren. Her daughter is asking her to skip this one occasion to respect their atheism.[/quote]

It’s a $25 gift.  Nothing lavish about it.  The guy is a prick.  This has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with a guy being an unreasonable attention seeking pain in the ass.  [/quote]
Do you know what "lavishing gifts" means? It means to give many gifts. It's not a comment on the lavishness of the gifts.
And it sounds like he and his family will just sit and not participate in the gift exchange. It wouldn't be garnering so much attention if OP would just respect that, instead of insisting they participate.[/quote]

She’s not “insisting they participate.”  She wants their KID to get a gift.  He’s a controlling prick whose kid is going to grow up hating him.  [/quote]

Incredibly sad.[/quote]

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