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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not reading all the comments but it’s worse when an acceptance of the abuse and a refusal to report abuse is tied to God—to your membership in the only community you have ever known, to going to heaven (and for Mormons that means being with your family after you die), and sometimes keeping your job (if you work for the church or BYU).

I was never in a situation involving but I did some messed up things to myself and others because I was brainwashed into thinking I had to. Like I believed that my depression was my fault and instead of getting out of bad situations I felt like a terrible person, things like that. It’s the same concept with abuse, your gut might tell you to report but you have handed over your idea of right and wrong to the institution, so you just do what the institution tells you to do. [/quote]

I’m sorry for your situation. Some religions do tell you to fix your own mental issues, and that’s wrong.

To me it’s morally worse, though, when a small boy is lured into a pedophile situation by an atheist group like NAMBLA or Dawkins thinking “mild” pedophelia is acceptable (apparently Dawkins’ teachers groped him in boarding school and he thinks that was ok). To me, this is on the same level as pedo priests—worse, even, because NAMBLA is an organization with the sole purpose of promoting pedophelia. [/quote]

I don’t mean worse as a moral matter, I mean worse in terms of potential for  abuse. [/quote]

Nice backpedaling. We can all read your defense of religious sexual abusers ourselves, thanks. [/quote]

DP. Whooosh—that’s the sound of you missing the comparison between a particular church’s attitude towards depression and the atheist group NAMBLA’s institutionalized support of pedophelia. Or, you’re deliberately missing the particular comparison because you’re dishonest. [/quote]

Wow. Doubling down on defending sexual abuse by religious leaders. I mean I’ve seen some vile things on DCUM but you and the original PP are the sickest that I can remember. Awful.

I guess this gives me some insight as to how religions perpetuate and protect abusers but it is stomach-turning. [/quote]

Lying histrionically is still lying. Everybody can see what those posters were talking about and how you’re lying about it. [/quote]

Yes, we can all see it. We can see how the religious PP said that sexual abuse by Dawkins and NAMBLA is “morally worse.” Let’s hope that post stays up a long, long time, because it’s a master class in how religions protected child abusers.

As someone who was abused in the church, it’s absolutely sickening. [/quote]

That was an atheist talking, you idiot. She was talking about the moral relativity of a church telling her not to seek help for her depression vs. atheist sexual abuse.

Are you the poster who claimed that pointing out atheist sexual abuse is “cherry picking”? Maybe you should turn your outrage on yourself. [/quote]

So the master class continues. Here we have an outright liar who is trying to gaslight a sexual abuse survivor. The person who used the term “morally worse” is of course religious — we can all read — but in the typical way of religious sexual abuse defenders, attacking a sexual abuse victim and lying about what everyone can see is true is the method of choice. [/quote]

Go away, troll. We can all read and it’s obvious the comparison was between depression and sexual abuse.

Are you embarrassed about your cherry-picking comment?

Are you furious because somebody finally called out atheists? [/quote]

It’s weird that you think you’re “calling out atheists” and yet present no concrete evidence of molestations on a mass scale, the likes of which I could easily reproduce for you in 5 minutes. It’s like you want so badly to validate a poorly reasoned hypothesis.

I mean here are just a few of the massive scandals. In each of these cases the church fights tooth and nail to protect abusers, mainly clergy. The scale is orders of magnitude worse than whatever you accuse gross azz nambla of doing.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/1117362904/southern-baptists-doj-investigation-sexual-abuse

Or this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/10/5/awful-truth-child-sex-abuse-in-the-catholic-church

Or this in Canada: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1113498723/pope-francis-apology-canada-residential-schools-indigenous-children

Or 30,000 children in Ireland: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/may/20/irish-catholic-schools-child-abuse-claims

And you come in here with an organization with no roster or amount of members you can point to as your main source of evidence that atheists “are worse”.
It’s comical. The church is full of repressed men who rape children, and who are shielded by top level clergy, and then forgiven by their parish or flock, and you try to compare? This is the dumbest thread ever.

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Oh for Pete’s sake.

How many times does it have to be repeated that the number of atheists is much smaller than the number of believers. Also, to date atheists haven’t been in charge of large institutions. But that’s changing, and we’re seeing abuse in secular schools and other secular institutions.

Also, I’m not Catholic or LDS. I just hate bigotry, shoddy reasoning and embarrassing math. Like the several among you who don’t understand how to use populations of various groups as denominators. [/quote]

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