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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Training a cat?  That’s hilarious[/quote]

Clearly you are no Jack Burns.

Whether it’s easy or not, just know: some of us have a visceral hatred for these rodents. As Richie Aprile said to Chris Moltisanti: just give me a reason. [/quote]

What on earth are you talking about? Cats aren't rodents. And your old people references don't mean anything to me. Go lie down and have a nice cup of tea you seem riled up and that always worked on my grandparents [/quote]

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Rodentia is the Order of rodents and they are characterized by two pairs of incisors that grow continuously. Cats are in the Order Carnivora. And famously hunt and eat rodents.

You are truly a hateful person. I will pray for you.[/quote]

It’s a complete myth that Fluffy is controlling rats for you. So you can drop the “famously.”

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/cats-vs-rats-nope-03102018/amp/[/quote]

Sweetie. I never said cats control rats. I say they hunt rodents- that includes mice...which your link says they do control. Your anger is leading to poor reading comprehension.[/quote]

Honey pie. Rats are rodents. Either you were intentionally misleading people, or you’re ignorant.

Also, your ad hominems and insults are childish and don’t speak well of cat ladies. You’d have more credibility if you stuck with facts (oops, so far you don’t have any facts) and didn’t pack insults into your every post—that is, if you want to avoid the moniker “crazy cat lady.”[/quote]

PP said that cats were Rodents. I said they are not they are Carnivora. And to contrast the difference between the two Orders (you do know about Kingdom, Phylum etc right?) I said that cats "famously hunt and eat rodents."

I never said control populations. That was something you came up with b.c you have an axe to grind.

And in this thread the most deranged ad hominem has come from PP who is desperate to kill cats. 
"Cats are rodents and your apartment is gross and stinks. You have disgusting hair all over your clothes when you go to work. Nobody likes you" and that I should take the cat photos down or I won't get a promotion. And the Crazy Cat Lady epithet which is sexist. [/quote]

And this is different, how, from “I’m going to open my door so Fluffy can make my neighbors’ yards filthy and kill small mammals and birds whose lives I think are worthless”?[/quote]

I never said that. I never wrote anything supporting outdoor cats. I was the first to recommend the motion sensor sprinklers. I just object to psychos itching to kill them and calling them rodents. [/quote]

You haven’t answered the questions. 
1. Why should OP pay for motion sprinklers to deal with a neighbor’s cat?
2. How is the “psycho” poster (not me BTW) who boasts on the interwebs to kill (non-native) cats any different from the psycho cat lady who IRL lets her cat out to foul the neighbors’ yards and kill 100+ (native) small mammals and birds every year? [/quote]

1. Because you can't control other people. And as many others have said- the problems they are having could easily be from raccoons or foxes. And yes I object to killing a pet that someone can love very much. 
2. You don't know for a fact that that individual cat hunts. Not all of them do- they need to be taught by their mothers how to actually kill. Again your rage is making you irrational. [/quote]

Stop with the ad hominems already, it just makes you look childish. I’m not rageful (and the post you object to wasn’t mine). Grow up, cat lady.

I do care about our native wildlife and the 30% decline in birds—unlike you, apparently.

Such bad logic.

1. If you can’t control other people, then you can’t stop OP from trapping the cat and taking it to the shelter, which is cheaper and more permanent than a sprinkler. Laws in MoCo and Fairfax apparently support OP doing this, as we saw earlier in the thread. The cat is what’s known as a negative externality—the selfish cat owner is exporting her cat’s problems to her neighbors. There’s a market solution for that, which is that the neighbors take matters into their own hands.

Your doom-and-gloom scenario of the cat getting euthanized is drama queen level.  If OP is feeling generous, she can call the owner to say the cat is at the shelter. Otherwise, if the cat has tags (as it should) or is chipped, the shelter will call the owner. Then the owner has to go to the shelter and pay a fine each time it happens—and maybe the owner will learn something. If the cat doesn’t enjoy a few hours in the shelter, blame the selfish and lazy owner, not OP. The only way the cat gets killed is if this selfish owner neglected to put tags on its collar—in which case again all blame lies with the owner.

2. Weird logic here. You don’t know the cat *doesn’t* hunt. Most cats do hunt, as you know. Are you seriously arguing that because some small percentage of cats don’t hunt, that we should tolerate all cats outside hunting?[/quote]

Depending on the shelter, they may not be willing to take these cats. Even if OP pretends the cats are hers, many shelters have programs in place to try to keep cats out - especially those who spend time outside - since cats do so poorly and are so at risk of euthanasia in shelters, and tend to do pretty well outside. If OP knowingly harms the neighbor's cats, and the neighbor learns about it - or suspects it - it is going to be a very ugly battle. One that I think OP is going to regret.

I haven't read this whole thread - but OP, have you tried talking to your neighbor? [/quote]

“If OP knowingly harms the cat”—deflection because there’s no indication OP will do this. “If OP pretends the cats are here…ugly battle…I think OP will regret”—wut? Again no indication OP plans to do this.

You people need to address the problems directly, not continue to come up with pretend scenarios and more insults.

1. Why should OP have to buy sprinklers, video cams, or other equipment to deal with her neighbor’s cat?
2. Why shouldn’t cat owners be expected to entertain their pets indoors, as other pet owners do?
3. Why is an outdoor cat’s entertainment more importantly than the lives of the 1000+ small mammals and birds a single outdoor cat will kill over its lifetime, not to mention the threat to native bird species that are in 30% decline? (links for these stats above)[/quote]

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