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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Based on earlier comments, it sounds like people want to base academic rankings on job placement and salary statistics. Those two don’t necessarily correlate. If you’re comparing an Ivy classics major to a State U CS major, the comparison makes no sense from an academic perspective, but the CS major will have a higher salary. What’s the point of the ROI focus? To make the arts look bad? Don’t people already know which majors pay? ROI is a dumb way to rate academic excellence. [/quote]

College degree is useless waste of money if you serve at a restaurant or make coffee at Starbucks afterwards.
It's not everything but most important factor

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It works the other way too. Anyone who pays too dollar for a degree in a field which pays high salaries regardless of where your degree is from is throwing away their money. When you can do just as well in engineering or CS with a degree from Stat U, why pay 2-3 times as much as much?[/quote]

That is like saying why go to a Michelin star restaurant when you can go to McDonald's and get a meal at lower price. [/quote]

Getting a CS degree from GMU is not same as a CS degree from CMU.[/quote]

True. But getting a CS degree from Georgia Tech ($50K OOS) is comparable to a CS degree from CMU ($80K OOS). [/quote]

If you need aid, CMU will award it. Not going to get anything from a highly-ranked public as an OOS.
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What is considered highly ranked is Georgia Tech highly ranked?[/quote]
Georgia Tech is ranked #5 in Computer Science. Is being #5 highly ranked in your dictionary?[/quote]

Yes, but that’s one program. How is it’s classics program? That’s why it’s not a highly ranked overall. [/quote]

Georgia Tech doesn't even have a Classics Department and offers no classes in Greek or Latin. That doesn't make it a weaker choice, unless that matters to you. Just like Dartmouth not having a major in business doesn't make it a weaker choice for those who don't care about that.[/quote]

What if your kid goes in for CS and then changes their mind? Lots of kids do that. I went in for Economics and ended up switching to Chemistry. Never imagined I would do that in HS. [/quote]

So Dartmouth is no good because it doesn't offer the business degree that Georgia Tech does?[/quote]

Overall, Dartmouth provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech. That doesn’t mean GTech isn’t good for a CS degree and getting a high-paying CS job after college. But for those in the market for prestigious educational credentials, Dartmouth beats GTech. [/quote]

Honestly, this is the first time I am hearing  this i.e "provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech" about Dartmouth. I haven't heard anyone applying to Dartmouth for any major in NoVA region. [/quote]

Dartmouth is a significant notch above GT. Just look at the stats of admitted students. And the undergraduate experience at Dartmouth is unparalleled with the possible exception of Princeton.[/quote]

Dartmouth is a significant notch above GT in liberal arts. GT is a significant notch above Dartmouth in Engineering. 
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Dartmouth is many notches above GT, period. [/quote]

[b]Georgia Tech is no. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the entire nation for aerospace engineering depending upon ranking service.  Dartmouth is - not even in the running![/quote][/b]

Aerospace engineering is a low profit margin business

Dartmouth grads become treasury secretaries

Do you know any gen x or boomers who were in aero?

Before space x and blue origin, the 80s and 90s and even 2000s were brutal for aero.

You are at the whim of shareholders who pressure ceos to cut costs.

I like GT as a school btw but you are making GT look bad by trying to shoehorn it into a weight class it doesn’t belong in [/quote]

The peer group is extremely important for undergraduate education. Dartmouth's Ivy League peer group will be way superior to GT's peer group. It's a fact, not an assertion.

Besides, who cares about a bachelor's in aerospace engineering. It will be the PhD that counts not a generic bachelor's degree where you take a lot of non-specialized classes and call it aerospace engineering (ie work at airports servicing airplanes)[/quote]

Your understanding of the word 'fact' is flawed. Dartmouth's median SAT score is in the 99th percentile. Georgia Tech's is in the 97th percentile. It's seriously distorted to think that's 'way superior'.[/quote]

So many people are distorted by the Rankings system.  And they are a bit uninformed as there are "real jobs" in aerospace engineering for just a bachelor degree.  Tons of them.  But yes, go get a general engineering sciences instead of aerospace or even MechE and attempt to use your Dartmouth connections and pride yourself on "smart cohorts from university".  [b]When you finally land a job (not likely to be a real aerospace job without any focus as an undergrad),[/b] you will find yourself working with many smart engineers from many schools who are just as driven and intelligent as you, except they will have a degree that is focused and targeted in the area of interests, as well as a great general engineering background, as that's at the core of most T100 engineering schools (or ABET accredited schools). [/quote]

This website lists where engineers in one department at NASA did their undergraduate studies. Almost all are state schools!

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/engineering/
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The Dartmouth grads don't have to land a job in aerospace engineering since they will be the ones doing the hiring. They will be the CEOs and COOs.[/quote]

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