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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've never seen a wealthy full-pay teen with good stats get rejected from Wisconsin, Michigan, and USC. You're going to get into at least one, so absolute worst-case your kid is at a top 40-ish university.

The folks who complain on message boards have mediocre unmotivated kids who simply don't care as much as the parents do. And also, [b]parents with a kid currently at a 20 to 50 ranked school who exaggerate how difficult it is to get in, in an effort to make their kid sound more accomplished than s/he is.[/b]

Outside of the super elite, all universities are hard-up for money. A rich kid who looks like s/he'll graduate on time, has parents who are paying cash and will very likely donate, is a highly sought after applicant.[/quote]

Well, which one is it? Sure if you donate a few million on the spot, and your kid has the stats, the top schools will take you. But full pay is not as much pull as you think, unless you have a few million upon admission to back it up. Universities can't afford to bet on who might or might not donate after the diploma. Schools need money, especially after covid, and schools are not willing to hedge their bets on what might or might not happen.  2020-21 ramifications are still in full force in admissions, like it or not, and will be for the foreseeable future (at least a few more years).

I know plenty of very qualified kids who were turned down at their dream school, because there just aren't enough spots for non URM or non athletes. I also know parents with (truly) marginal athletes write out a check for millions, and suddenly, viola! Their kid is at Yale. I also know kids turned down at their obvious safety schools, due to yield protection.

Yet, all DCUM parents care to crow about is who they think (without ever having visited this or that school in person) should or should not be in this ranking and that ranking, because they don't comprehend what they read.

Unless you have been through the hell that is current day admissions, in the last two years, sit down.[/quote]

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