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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rochester is fighting back. There is no reason we cannot change the rules to demand registration, fine, intercept, impound and destroy these vehicles as they are. This is not harmless fun — it’s noise pollution, illegal and terroristic behavior. What about children living in these neighborhoods? Do they not have rights? It’s not NIMBY either. It’s common sense and the politician with guts to make DC into a properly governed city will win.[/quote]

You're right.  It's easy to do.  Just require any wheeled or tracked vehicle travelling 20mph or more on public property to be registered, required to follow motor vehicle traffic rules and their operator licensed for the amount of wheels or tracks they are using.  It's a simple solution, easy to enforce and future proof.[/quote]

OMG - this is sarcasm, right?

You cannot possibly be this ignorant of the facts here.  [/quote]

No.  That solves the problem.  It's also basic common sense.   What about that would anybody disagree with?  The problem with cracking down on them is that they don't necessarily fit into one of the categories so it is not clear if they are violating the law.  Identifying exact engine size by quick glance is virtually impossible.  Instead of expensive or complicated workarounds that won't work, acoustic cameras lol, just close the loopholes and simplify the process.  KISS[/quote]

The laws already exist.

The teens riding illegal bike DGAF about any of the laws.  They simply ignore them.

I really believe you do not get it.  At all.  You are completely clueless about  the "biker boys" culture.

But if you disagree, just head down to S.E. any summer evening, becon over one of the young men on an illegal dirtbike or ATV, and explain to him he must immediately cease and desist riding because it is in violation of traffic lawas and a danger.

Report back to us here how that goes. [/quote]

What you seem to be missing is that it is not entirely clear that the dirt bikes are violating any laws right now.  Engines smaller than 50cc or dirt bikes with manual gears are not illegal and have no registration requirement.  There are also different rules depending on whether or not there are pedals and the type of tire installed.  Changing the registration rule to make it speed based and vehicle neutral solves that problem, prevents loopholes and simplifies enforcement.

Without registration tying the vehicle to the owner there is no point in fines.
Banning two stroke engines has the exact same enforcement problem, is ineffective because 4 stroke engines exist, and includes lawnmowers among other things. [/quote]

These rules seem pretty clear: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/minibikes-and-other-small-vehicles

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It is illegal to ride or operate a minibike, dirt bike or All Terrain Vehicle (ATV) anywhere on public space in the District of Columbia (including streets, sidewalks, alleyways, bike lanes, public trails and other public locations).
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Look at the definitions.  [/quote]

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