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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees[/quote]

I'd agree that this isn't new (I was robbed in high school although it was less traumatic than this sounds), but if you both assault someone and steal something, that's a charge of robbery and it's a felony. I'm fine with the police being involved with that. I don't think it's a sign of crisis, but it's a serious charge. [/quote]

Theft of used shoes is literally theft of &lt;$50. No it’s not a felony FFS!

It’s neither serious nor trauma but it does require discipline.[/quote]

Well, not to nitpicking, but used sneakers routinely go for 75-100 bucks.

But let me tell you, I got mugged.  As an adult.  And I probably lost about 50 bucks in cash and my old wallet.  I cancelled all cards.  So at the end of the day, I was out 50 bucks plus the cost of a new wallet.

And it was traumatic AF.

The cost of the theft is irrelevant to the fear/trauma inflected.

Plus, layer in that the victim is a CHILD!!!!!  And that victim deserves the respect.  They should not have to sit in a class with or pass their mugger in a hallway.

In case you can't tell, the community is starting to get frustrated with MCPS' approach to discipline.

And for all the posters who are saying this is just reflective of the increased crime in the community:  where do you think all those criminals in the community first started?  They started with stunts like this.  If we want to improve crime in 5-8 years, we need to teach these young men and women at the early age that theft and violence is unacceptable and has severe consequences.[/quote]

But to nitpick but unless the shoes cost &gt;$500 it’s a misdemeanor.

The assault and battery with no bodily harm is also a misdemeanor and a juvenile offense literally has no criminal consequences.

Actually assaults like these in society come from not educating kids and putting them in the criminal justice system at an early age. Denying them an education will lead them to assault in the future.
 
We educate people for society not for the children.

I don’t think the victim should ever see them again and the perps should move.

Your reflexive reaction based in your own trauma is delusional.[/quote]

Denying them an education? What education are these kids getting at Northwood? My kid is at Northwood and he said these kids always skip classes and roam the hallways. What is the point of insisting that kids like this must stay in regular school. Several of the kids who assaulted the kid and took his shoes have caused fights and been suspended several times. Yet they keep returning to the detriment of all the other kids at the school. [/quote]

These kids? Which kids? You know the 4 in the bathroom?

Which kids do you mean? [/quote]

Yes. Everyone at the school knows exactly which kids these are. The police were in the hallway trying to deal with the miscreants. [/quote]

So police are in the hallways trying to police kids that haven’t even done anything wrong yet based on some assumptions you make about them. Thanks for proving everybody’s point about SRO’s being bad.[/quote]

Miscreant (n) - a person who behaves badly or in a way that breaks the law 
So… the PP’s post does NOT show SROs being bad.
(I’d also argue that your “everybody” is misplaced since it appears most people on this thread support SROs.)[/quote]

If they have already acted badly or broken a law then you don’t just “know who they are” you see them break them law and you react to their actions.

But what PP actually meant is there are black/Hispanic/disabled kids who act in a way that is loud/bad grades/annoying/don’t pay attention and SROs should target those kid for criminal interaction because she only want well behaved, quiet, studious kids with her child. And that is why people don’t want SROs

Being a bad student is not a crime.[/quote]

No, what they are saying is they don't care about the education, but they want kids who are black/hispanic/students of color/disabled to get a free pass on any bad/violent or serious behavior just based off their skin color.[/quote]

RJ improves the suspension numbers. It is rare to suspend students now for bad behaviors.[/quote]

That’s correct! We don’t suspect anymore, even if a student commits a pretty serious offense. We have a RJ session, the student learns nothing, and the school day continues. The victimized student is thrown right back into the same situation with no resolution and no promise that things will improve. But our suspension statistics look better, which is all we seem to care about these days. [/quote]

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