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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]duke[/quote]

Duke envy! Honest persons admit Duke is an elite institution with a consistently great basketball team.

Much UVA hate which seems in response to UVA boosters trying to elevate the brand higher than reality.[/quote]

I’m not a hater. My feeling is that any school outside my neighborhood that I’ve heard about at all can do great things for the right students.

But, when I was applying to college, back in the 1980s, and wanting to major in physics, I assumed that Duke, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame and Northwestern were all weaker than places like Tufts, Emory, Wash. U. or Case Western *because* they had Division I sports. It wasn’t till I started reading DCUM, as a parent, that I learned that people thought of Duke, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt as prestigious.

It could be that, outside of the Southeast, Duke takes a hit, with respect to perceptions of academic prestige, because it looks like a basketball team with a university attached. [/quote]

The most visible edifices from above at most U.S. universities appears to be the football stadium and the basketball arena.  If not that, the hospital.   Some appear to be health systems with universities attached.[/quote]

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