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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How will they distinguish among white or Asian kids who all have the same grades?

I get how this allows them to pick minorities.  But there will be spots who go to white/Asian kids.  And a very large percentage of these kids will have almost identical grades--I know my kid and all of his friends have the same grades
Retake and lax grading makes it almost impossible to not do well in many publics (DCPS for sure). 
I get that extracurriculars are one thing--but again, most kids will have a very, very similar version of these as well.  And it's not Harvard--we're not looking for kids to split to atom to get into UCSD or even UCLA.

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Same as how they do it now.  Most kids who have similar grades from similar HS also have very similar standardized test scores.    [/quote]

Not at all.  in my child's very socioeconomically diverse school, which doesn't offer class rank, allows endless retakes/resubmissions, the "top" GPAs are quite compressed due to grade inflation.  Like many kids near 5.0.  But a couple of those kids got 1500s on their SATs, a couple got 1400, and a couple got 1300, while the vast majority scored 1100-1200, despite their top grades.  You think these students are all equally capable of succeeding in the most challenging college and professional endeavors just because they are near "straight A" students?

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Do you think kids who are good test takers are equally capable of succeeding in the most challenging college and professional environments? [/quote]

DP. What do you mean by “good test taker”? Being a good test taker as in you have high working memory? There are lots of very good test takers who have bad grades. A really high standardized test score reflects IQ, not anything you prep for. [/quote]

You think the SAT tests IQ? Really?[/quote]

Yes, I do. I feel like you don't actually know how very smart the kids are who ace standardized tests.  Like the kind that just walk in and ace it, with no or little prep. Those kids are the SMAHT ones and they exist, and they have high IQs.  [/quote]

"Although the principal finding of Frey and Detterman has been established for 15 years, it bears repeating: the SAT is a good measure of intelligence [1]. Despite scientific consensus around that statement, some are remarkably resistant to accept the evidence of such an assertion."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/

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