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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The stats don't really matter...when you get to the point of being considered for admissions, you have crossed whatever threshold these schools have - 1500 or 1550, 3.75 UW with the most rigorous classes taken, strong and unique ECs.

The difference in a .10 or .20 for the GPA or 20 points on the SAT aren't going to make or break. What is your story, what do you have to offer to the college's community. It isn't like everyone getting in is a 5.0, 1600 SAT applicant. So asking about their stats is really missing the point.

There are thousands more qualified applicants than there are slots available at these schools, so you have to stand out in some way, and there is no secret sauce to standing out. [b]Just live you life and see where the chips fall.[/b][/quote]

I'd actually be fine with that kind of meritocracy, but speaking as a parent of a now college student, your post ignores a factor that these schools all use that significantly affects HS students ability to just " apply / go for it.... and let the chips fall where they may"

That is: ED also known as the time when Universities try to get a firm handle/ achieve their target numbers for both URM ( last year  of Black@was def the year of the URM ) and their number of full pay who will commit by signing on ED

Those two groups take A LOT of the slots and did so in last year's admit cycle , especially when colleges were all taking a huge hit financially from the down enrollment in 2020 due to covid.

So, a very bright kid ( 1600 SAT, great EC's and also an outstanding athlete ) can't just apply regular decision to say Stanford, a couple IVy's and MIT and see what they get because if they don't go ED at the school that is offering them a guarantee then the schools fill up their slots with the kids who did or they are shut out.

To me, the escalating spending at these schools that made their budgets so high that they have to lock in full pay ED ( and consequently take a lot of unqualified legacies ) is ultimately undermining the quality of their student body and long term the quality of education that those they do admit receive.[/quote]

But, doesn't need-blind admissions make this N/A? On the one hand, a family may choose not to ED if they are worried that the financial aid package won't be strong enough (if the kid gets in ED). But, on the other hand, i 9th stop schools are need blind and meet 100% of demonstrated need, isn't that a fairly low risk? [/quote]

In their printed materials " need blind" may be what they say, but the same is true of Private Schools in the DMV and, well, what is your experience on that PP ? How does it play out in real life ?

To your point about the FA offer being a way to wiggle out of the ED commit, here is how Ivy's make sure that doesn't happen and that its air tight:

If you are a recruited student athlete for an Ivy, the Ivys  ask you to do a pre-admit read of supposedly your transcript and test scores ( SAT/ACT was still required for Athletic recruits at Ivy's and you have to be within 1-3 STD of their AQ score of 240 , but they also look at your financials - you submit your Tax returns while your kid is being recruited and, if your kid is also being recruited by Stanford or Duke or another Ivy they offer to match the FA if your kid passes the  FA "pre-admit read"

This happens in summer before SR year, so what does that tell you about how these schools are already delegating their funds / lists of who they are admitting BEFORE anyone else even applies in the fall/ spring admission cycles ?[/quote]

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