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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b][quote=Anonymous]Here’s the words that stand in it to me in the thread title: Give Up. If the first time men aren’t the dominant demo in an institution society places a high value on and their reaction is to give up, maybe they don’t belong in college. I wonder what would happen to these poor fragile men if large numbers were sexually assaulted and sexually harassed at school and in the workplace with no consequences to the perpetuators; were raped and force to carry pregnancies to term; had their civil rights taken away; were disadvantaged by an old girls network; were paid less for equal work; we forced to bear children the didn’t want; had a glass ceiling; were significantly under-represented in Congress, the judiciary, corporate boardrooms and C-suites; had occupations they participate in in large numbers devalued (financially and in terms of prestige); were expected to do 2x to 4x more work in managing a home and raising children while working full time; etc, etc. it will take years for women’s job market participation to get back to where it was pre-COVID. So, for the first time in this nation’s history, there is one area where white men don’t a structural advantage that makes everything easier for them and makes them the de facto dominant. Who cares? No one can argue with a straight face that they don’t have equal opportunities. In fact, my kids applied to SLACs and the standards were lower for DS. If boys don’t have equal outcomes, maybe of the “boys will be boys” “it’s fine to spend hours on video games” mentality that has lowered our expectations of them. Or, maybe they are so unprepared for adversity because they literally never face it that they just “give up.” Maybe boys and men need more adversity so they develop so coping skills and Grit, and not less. But, but, but… think of the white men! :roll:[/quote] Teenage boys didn't create any of these things, nor have they enjoyed a structural advantage in education. But thank you again for pointing out that you want today's youth to suffer as much as possible, and demonstrating that you have no concern or compassion for them that would lead you to consider, for even a moment, whether there are some issues at play when it comes to our schools. [/quote] +1 When you are looking at your individual child who is struggling, it doesn't really matter that most CEOs are white men. I have a boy who took some time to find his interests and drive and it took a lot of parental support plus us paying for summer camps, tutors, pre-college programs. And, we were happy to do that and comfortable with the expense. But, if we were unable to pay that, the resources were very little. I found a number of STEM programs that were free or very low cost for girls or boys of color (who absolutely should also be encouraged in those fields) but nothing that welcomed white boys who couldn't pay a substantial fee. I've gone to some girls-only STEM programs with DD and she found it really weird that they would do that just for girls. In her world, there is no reason to give girls special attention over boys since she sees that the most successful students are girls.[/quote]
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