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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think people  who say that current laws are working and that they just need to be enforced are using a stupid and desperate argument. The families of Forty thousand dead Americans say otherwise[/quote]

Nobody is making the “stupid and desperate” straw man argument you raise. Current laws are not working because they are not enforced. When every felon caught in possession of a firearm spends ten years in federal prison and then a consecutive term of years in state prison for the concomitant state offense, crime will go down. When every person caught making use of a firearm in commission of a felony and/or a crime of violence is imprisoned for the maximum duration with consecutive federal and state sentences, crime will go down. When every straw purchaser is prosecuted and given the maximum consecutive federal and state penalties, crime will go down. When every person found carrying a firearm unlawfully is prosecuted and given the maximum sentence, crime will go down.

These things are not being done. When they are done (project exile, for example) they are extremely effective. Then political pressure comes to hear because certain interest groups don’t like the demographics of the persons being imprisoned. [/quote]

What is the basis for saying the laws are not being enforced?  Why do people on this thread keep saying this?

The US has the highest per capita prison rate of any developed country.  We have already tried locking up the bad guys in perpetuity and it does not really solve our gun problem.[/quote]

Felon in possession cases are rare enough that prosecutors consider them worth a press release.

“Project Exile” was a real thing. It evoked huge outrage and ended up being watered down.

Reading the news is enough to know that people with multiple priors are walking the streets here as of prison hallways.

“Broken windows policing” where people who commit small infractions are vigorously prosecuted clearly reduced crime. Unfortunately, the “wrong” people were overrepresented, leading to significant opposition and retrenchment.

Reading the news shows that people, even significant offenders, aren’t being given maximum and/or consecutive federal and state sentences.

As for locking people up not “solving our gun problem,” the people who are locked up aren’t engaged in the criminal misuse of firearms while in prison.

There are other reasons for violent crime, many of them social and not readily amenable to correction, particularly when the solution involves recognizing that parental absence/irresponsibility, substance abuse, lack of respect for education, and a tremendous devaluation of human life across society are major contributors.[/quote]

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