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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Making it into the ECNL showcase even into the open cup as an ECNL R team is still worth something. College coaches can still attend your games and see you play. Some might even have more respect for a high performing ECNL R team as opposed to a low performing regular ECNL team (like BRYC or Maryland United). So keep on spouting BS and the rest of us will keep on watching our DC playing and improving. [/quote]

Nobody is bashing the league. There are just structural differences between ECNL and ECNL-R. They are not the same, they never will be the same. And showcase wise, terrific, it is a bonus IF you win your own Regional League. And if you do you still will simply play other ECNL-R teams and has been stated some underperforming ECNL teams.

College coaches scout kids, not teams. They know the difference between leagues and the level of play. The film you will use to entice them to see your DC play will be 90% league based play with slower and less skilled players. Even if your team is a terrific ECNL-R team they won't care about the TEAM, only your kid. Your kid would have to be head and shoulders better than any player on the field to get noticed.

[b]Combining ECNL and GA there are nearly 4,000 kids in any given graduation year getting looked at before your ECNL-R kid. [/b]

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This where you expose yourself. Colleges don't create tiers of recruits based on league. They know the worst kids in ECNL are not better than the best kids in ECNL-r. And those kids will be head and shoulders above other kids and they'll be equal to many talented ECNL kids. ECNL-r is massive league across multiple regions with differing abilities. ECNL-r in California is going to be different than here or Northeast or South.

You're right they scout kids and not teams. Which makes my point. Every player is different and they're evaluated that way. Does playing against better competition matter for development and exposure? Sure. And their chances in ECNL are better. No doubt about that. But stating an absolute that every ECNL kid is in line before ECNL-R is ridiculous. That's why colleges have camps to group players and have them compete against each other. The best are the ones recruited. I know several kids in ECNL-r or CCL that got spots ahead of ECNL at Division I and other schools.[/quote]

They scout kids at levels of play they know and trust. ECNL-R is closer to play with CCL, NCSL and EDP and your kid really needs to be a true standout at that level to draw interest.

When they see a kid play well at ECNL or GA showcase they can trust what they are seeing on the field because the level of competition. There were 11 brackets at Jeff cup this past year at U14 and Villarreal instead chose to play in the prestigious Stafford St. Patrick's Day tournament instead. I'm sure any number of D1 schools would be excited by your DD's hattrick against Loudoun Silver in that tournament. Now they would have to see it on film because they are at Jeff Cup instead. I mean a real battle of the titans for coaches to come and watch, the 43rd ranked Villarreal vs the 89th ranked Loudoun Silver.

The point isn't that your DD isn't good at soccer, the point is she will not be at a venue where she will be seen by enough coaches. She won't get better being on a at best mediocre team playing against bad teams in a tournament where only teams Jeff Cup wouldn't accept go to play.

And, lets not claim Jeff Cup is drawing UNC or Stanford here. The coaches that do go are from low D1, D2 and run of the mill D3 schools. And even those coaches are not venturing to watch teams lower than the 4th bracket.

But again, Villareal is on the cusp of ECNL.  :roll: [/quote]

First, your conflating this discussion about Villarreal and college recruiting. Nothing I said was about Villarreal or my daughter. She doesn't even play soccer, so you're making a lot of assumptions about things I didn't say and distracting from my point.

You act as if the way this works is that coaches show up at showcases and are randomly watching kids to find players and that's how they are "found." Except it isn't. Coaches don't have time for that. The good schools show up at showcases knowing which games they want to watch because they've been in communication with prospects and have seen film and probably had them in camp. You completely contradict your theory of recruiting when you say the best schools don't show up at these events. And that's true. So how do they find them? Not at ECNL games.

If you had read what I had written, I was talking about how not every ECNL/GA player is tiered above ECNL-r and there's a lot of opportunity for the best ECNL-r to find their way on Division I rosters. The path may be more difficult but presenting it as having to wait behind every ECNL/GA player is ridiculous. Recruiting is about relationships, grades, money and other factors AND playing ability because lots of players are in the same cluster - regardless of league - and you have to differentiate yourself. If show me coaches that only recruit from showcases and tournaments and look at leagues first then you are showing me a lazy coach that i wouldn't want my child to play for and probably won't be at the job very long.[/quote]

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