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Reply to "The Absurdity of U.S. News College Rankings - Per Malcolm Gladwell"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah what the ill-informed and nasty PP doesn't realize is that the schools that have benefited from rankings the most are the non-Harvard/Yale Ivies. The Ivy League went from being an old-school athletic conference to having the level of prestige they enjoy today. But sure, take it out on these other schools. The confident stupidity and lack of self-awareness truly knows no bounds.[/quote] What a ridiculous post. The Ivies have been the Ivies and ergo have been synonymous with prestige and top academics for a long time, whether deserved or undeserved. This is true in the US and it is true internationally. The smaller Ivies - Brown and Dartmouth - are less recognized by name alone internationally but rather their affiliation to the Ivies. However in the US they have always been prestigious nationally and particularly in the Northeast - the economic and political center of the US. Cornell in particularly is very popular internationally despite Americans desperately trying to compare it to a state school.[/quote] The Ivy League is an athletic conference. USNWR entrenched their status as prestigious schools; they weren't all considered prestigious beforehand.[/quote] Uh no, the Ivies were always considered prestigious regardless of USNews. The Ivies are the oldest colleges in the US and targetted wealthy and politically powerful Northeastern families, ergo they were prestigious. Schools like Dartmouth were definitely a boy's club for wealthy white males, and perhaps cared more about non-academic factors, was never much of a research university, etc., but it was still prestigious.[/quote] [b]No one outside of America even remotely cared about the Ivy League until US News.[/b] And the same drop in acceptance rate that the upthread PP keeps bringing up about schools like UChicago occurred across the board with the Ivies as well.[/quote] The opposite is true. People in many foreign countries have no idea what schools are in the Ivy league (maybe except Harvard), but they only know the Ivy league is prestigious. Just like they don't know who are the Oscar Academy winners, but they know that's a prestigious award and honor. So just say to them you are from a Ivy league school you have the prestige. As simple as that. [/quote]
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