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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let's just be honest with ourselves.  Some parents, not a majority by any means, engaged in behavior that was beyond the pale.  Yes, it was in the interest of their children and in moving schools in a likely better direction, but it was unnecessary, offensive, and poisoned the environment of the schools.  In some rare cases, it was even racist.  I am a parent, and I was frankly shocked by what some folks were willing to say and do.  Even if it agreed with their point.  Sadly, our society in general has deteriorated to the point that incivility has become a norm for some people.  They seem to feel no shame or remorse for that.  I do not blame teachers or staff for not being willing to put up with it.  And even though I hope that we will slowly piece our school communities back together, they will be fractured and the wounds will take a long time to heal.  You can make comments about how you'd prefer new teachers, but our children will suffer even higher teacher turnover.  I know that in my own school community we are losing some fantastic teachers, ones that were incredibly reasonable during distance learning and went above and beyond for the kids.  All of this is not to say that some teachers and staff also engaged in behavior that was simply unacceptable, perhaps borne out of fear and frustration, and which was unnecessary and costly for kids this past year.  But the question here is teacher turnover, and the adage that two wrongs do not make a right still holds.[/quote]

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And in the spirit of keeping it real, if you can't identify examples of W3 parents acting "beyond the pale" this year over reopening, then you're likely part of the problem. At my school community, it has caused a rift between the teacher and parent community and alienated our families of color. It's not great and we have a lot of rebuilding to do this next year. [/quote]

I am an NP and I am genuinely asking for an example of behavior you think is beyond the pale. Reopening was very divisive at my W6 school and definitely I heard parents privately use language about teachers (generically much more than specific teachers) that I would never use and that I suspect they would never use publicly. Sometimes getting more kids back in school made the at home experience worse and, especially to the extent that statistically preferences for IPL v DL had a racial/economic correlation, I completely agree that reopening issues split school communities along unhelpful lines. But unless you think merely advocating for kids to return given those background conditions is beyond the pale (I do not), I really cannot think of examples of the phenomenon which you indicate was everywhere. WHAT did nice white parents do at your school that was so bad?[/quote]

Some of those parents who used "language about teachers that I would never use and that I suspect they would never used publicly" did in fact did do so publicly and in emails to teachers, principals, and other parents.[/quote]

Until you actually spell out what you believe is "beyond the pale," I don't buy it.  I think you just think it was impolite for them to advocate for kids to get back into the schools.  Maybe they got a little mad -- but what did you expect?  Schools literally closed for over a year for many parents, and many kids are really suffering the consequences.  You seem to be arguing that the people most entitled to be emotional (parents who think their kids are being put at risk) are the ones who had to maintain some sort of decorum lest the powers that be feel hurt.  This wasn't about anybodies' feelings.  [/quote]

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