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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]SAT scores do not measure intelligence. They do measure how prepared for college a student is. I always laugh at people who make the distinction that they or their student “isn’t good at taking tests” but deserve special attention because they are really smart otherwise and tests are designed to not help rich, privileged people. Pathetic really. [/quote] If you have 10-15K to throw at the test almost any kids can get a high score and those with major learning disabilities. Months of practice, individualized teaching to the test and extreme individual coaching can get almost any kid a top score. I guess to you that means the kid is ready for college.[/quote] So I guess the children of all rich families get 1600 on their SAT? /s Actually, rich families with mediocre students [i]hate[/i] the SAT because there is much less opportunity to massage the score. You can hire someone to write their personal essay. and get them impressive sounding extracurricular activities. Cheating on their high school tests is relatively easy. But intensive training for the SAT won't change their score by more than 80 points, and the opportunities for cheating are tiny.[/quote] haha if you say so! Obviously kids who have expensive prep and one on one tutoring to prepare do better. That's a fact. I spent about $500 on SAT prep for my kid, it was all I could afford. Pretty sure the rich families spent WAY more, and guess what, their mediocre kids get better scores. They just do because the SAT is all about test taking, 100% that is it. [/quote] Your perspective is outdated. My child did great with just khan academy and many, many kids do. It requires discipline but zero dollars. [/quote] It's really not outdated. I have seniors, I've just been through this. I paid a tutor to help my kid get where they needed to be with math because not a math person, only did a few hours, and the rest he took practice tests on Khan.[/quote] I have kids this age too and I’m telling you many are doing great with just khan academy at our expensive private school. So if you want to think everyone who scores high is a genius or paid a tutor that’s just not true. It does sound like there are a lot of kids willing to put in a lot more time working in their own than your child. [/quote] People lie! Who wants to say lara spent 20 weeks one on one for $500/hour getting ready for the SAT? People say what they are suppose to say. No one admits using a private counselors or tutors unless you caught. You really have no idea what people did except for your kid. You also know that the centers are still in business (and printing list of where their kids got in) so most likely someone is buying the service.[/quote] Clearly some people are doing it but you’re kidding yourself if you think everyone who could afford it is or that’s the only route to top scores. It’s definitely not! [/quote] Agreed! Some kids do no prep and are 1 and done. They have the same scores as others who have massive coaching and multiple tests. Sometimes they are even siblings. The point is the test can be manipulated but, of course, all students who have top scores are not gaming the system, However, I believe any score that can be manipulated by $$$ should not be the primary gatekeeper for college admittance.[/quote]
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