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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How do schools know whether you’re full pay or not?  I thought financial information went to a different office/area and that adcoms weren’t privy to this info?[/quote]

They can look up your address on google maps and make a pretty good guess.[/quote]

Or, they can look at the checkbox on the common app, which is a lot less work.  Assuming they are need-aware.

Need blind schools don't do either.[/quote]

Need blind schools aren’t need blind for the wait list. Wait lists are ^^^^ this year. Coincidence?[/quote]

All need blind schools aren't need blind for the waitlist?  [b]FALSE![/b]  Most need blind schools ARE need blind for the waitlist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need-blind_admission

Stop the misinformation.[/quote]

Many (most?) schools are not need blind for the waitlist, even if it doesn’t say so specifically in their policy. It happens as a practical matter, because the scholarship $$ is gone.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/06/04/how-college-waitlists-work-against-low-income-students/?sh=59db72d42277

But colleges don’t only use the waitlist to ensure they enroll an exact number of students; often, they help keep the school within their financial aid budget. In 2008, Reed, a small liberal arts college in Oregon, considered financial need in the first round of admissions. But when it turned to the waitlist, it only accepted students that were able to pay.

For students on the waitlist at a selective college, it’s almost guaranteed that financial need is being taken into account. While universities with large endowments are an exception, colleges become more aware of student’s financial need as they begin narrowing down their incoming class. Karen Crowley, a former admissions officer at the University of Pennsylvania, admitted rules can change even at need-blind schools when it comes to the waitlist. “It’s not an official practice,” she says, “but admissions officers are human.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dirty-secrets-of-college-waitlists

“Let schools know you can pay “It never hurts to remind schools know you will be a full-paying student, especially this year. The rules even change at need-blind schools when it comes to the waitlist. It’s not an official practice, but admissions officers are human. They know endowments are down and cost-cutting is essential. If a full-paying student says he’ll definitely come, letting him in can be a relief.” — Karen Crowley, consultant for College Coach, a national education-consulting firm, and former admissions officer at the University of Pennsylvania.”

The Georgia Tech AD says not to expect financial aid off the wait list.

“Don’t expect to come off the waitlist, and don’t expect much financial aid if you do. In some cases, you will be pleasantly surprised on one or both counts. But set your expectations based on fiscal reality and statistics.”

This article is paywalled, but I recall that there was a reference to a lack of financial aid for wait lists in this article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/expect-college-wait-lists-to-be-obnoxiously-long-this-year-11615377600

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Last year’s kids coming off the waitlist tended to favor full pay.  Financial aid is a limited resource at most school, even more so in the current environment.   The situation has changed pretty dramatically for the past two admission years compared to the pre-covid world.[/quote]

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