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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tipping implies a service done above and beyond expectations, not simply done.  As for people complaining that servers don’t make enough, well take it up with their employer.  I will support a living wage for employees no problem and tip for outstanding service.  I won’t simply tip in order that an employer can continue to abrogate his/her responsibility to the employee.[/quote]

Don't go eat in the restaurant or order from these types of services then. [/quote]

No, that’s not right. The company offers a service and quotes a price for it. You choose to work fir that company and so are part of the service provided. If the customer chooses to tip you, that is his decision. It’s when you feel entitled to a tip, or make statements like “if you can’t tip me you don’t deserve to eat here” that you begin to go wrong. You should instead be telling the company “if you can’t pay me a living wage, you don’t deserve to have me as an employee”. By not valuing yourself, you’re only enabling predation by these companies. Drivers have started to confront  these companies in the past few years which is why things are now better than they used to be.[/quote]

The irony. By continuing to eat in a restaurant and not tip the waitstaff, you're still helping the owners but stiffing the waiter. YOU are part of the problem of the exploitation too then. [/quote]

If you’d rather defend your employer instead of standing up to him or walking away, then you’re just passing the exploitation on to the customer. Why would you do that and expect to be defended? As I’ve said, you have plenty of choices. Also 16-25 doesn’t appear to be an exploitative wage, but I guess it varies from city to city.[/quote]

In this situation, it’s the employer and the customer who have the power, not the underpaid “independent contractor”. I can’t believe that somehow you’ve twisted this so that the customer is now the exploited one. Someone who is working as a delivery driver doesn’t have lots of options, otherwise they wouldn’t work this crappily paid job with no health insurance. YOU have plenty of choices, if you have the money to laze about the house while other people cook and deliver your food. But you’re choosing to be a cheap shill (that was your word, I believe) for late stage capitalism. Not a great look.[/quote]

It's actually exactly the other way around. Tipping practices hurt the economy, and hurt the server  as well as small (non-chain) restaurants - there's been a great deal of research on this. It's also extremely un-american in its origins - 17th century England. For much of the history of the United States, tipping was considered inconsistent with democratic principles and discouraged. In fact, several states passed laws outlawing tipping.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/08/15/why-americas-tipping-culture-is-actually-bad-for-restaurants/#70f854f213d1
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1267&context=jbl

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So I assume you’re calling your Congress member to advocate for doing away with tipping and the payment of livable wages for all service workers? If not, if all you’re doing is not tipping in a system that’s predicated on tipping for service workers to earn a livable wage, you’re full of shit, and a cheap bastard, not some defender of the rights of service workers.  :roll: [/quote]

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