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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I watched it and was expecting much worse than what I saw after reading these articles. There were a few dancing sequences that they could’ve left the close-up shots out of but I thought the story was mostly centered around the story with her mother and family. [/quote]

So other than the soft core child porn it was alright?  Good to know.  [/quote]

I guess I just didn’t see it unless Netflix edited the film from earlier. I’ve had to sit through a lot of dance competitions and it wasn’t much worse than anything I’ve seen there. The photo she took that I read about was implied , you didn’t actually see a photo. [/quote]

You might have a very warped idea of things. I've seen clips and the stuff was sick beyond words. I dont want to see close ups of 10 year old crotches though- YMMV[/quote]

Is this the movie we are talking about?
I'm very confused about the controversy other than the shitty promo photo from Netflix. It seems like a commentary on shit we feed girls and the result that they are going to want likes and what not online starting at 11, set against an immgrant/culture clash story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVQ6HwBflg

Is it just drastically different from the trailer? I don't see satanic in there- I see someone holding up a mirror to social media/ sexualization culture, for sure. I don't understand the satanic part? Is this all just that weird Qanon online group stirring up shit- because they believe something like democrats eat and sexually abuse kids in pizza places and such?[/quote]

You know, I'm really not sure how to explain to you that close up shots of children's bottoms while they twerk is essentially soft core porn.  That seems like something that should be intuitive, and, if it's not, it's either because the person has some kind of insurmountable cognitive deficit or they just don't want to see it. Neither is solvable- not by me at least- maybe God!  :lol:

I wish you the best! And I hope don't have children![/quote]

So I pulled the trigger and watched the damn dance sequences on netflix, not some weirdo re-cut reddit site or whatever. The film makers were hammering home a point, that this is NOT appropriate and yet that they are given all the imagery on social media that its what is ideal. TBH I do think she pushed it too far. It was meant to make the audience really uncomfortable, so you could feel like those people sitting in the audience at the dance show. What I wonder though, is if they had shot it wide lens of the whole stage, without the close ups- which made me cringe something fierce, if we as the audience would have felt that recoiling and horrified feeling. It doesn't matter if you are conservative or not- images we see all over start to desensitize us. Would we see it for how bad it really was vs. what we see as dance performances on tv or socials all the time which normalizes much of these movements for adult women. I don't know, I would hope so, but I can't say for sure, it truly built to a level of deep discomfort for me as they kept zooming in. I know that was the point, I just wish they were able to find a better way to cut it so that people's knee jerk to it didn't get in the way of what was otherwise a really important story to be told about what culture(s) tell girls basically as soon as they leave elementary school.

It very very much reminds me of the movie 13, as far as an attempt to show the "shock value of today's girls". But 13 didn't have this super layered component of sexualizing girls from an extremely conservative standpoint of culture vs. pop culture hypersexualization of a women's worth. That element of this movie is the part that is most thought provoking obviously, but its getting obfuscated by the fact that they WAY over did the shock value of the girls sexual dancing. Actually in a way, its strange because other movies about the shocking "real lives" of young teens and tweens have actually shown these young actors in physical situations with men or boys and this one is focused solely on girls' using their own bodies.

I wish they had gone about it without trying to hit people over the head with it, because then it becomes white noise in fodder for outrage, etc. The point is we should be collectively embarrassed by the mirror it holds up.

Also, God is a myth. I wish you the best.

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