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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Would you be okay with job applicants of certain racial backgrounds being less likely to get jobs than equally qualified candidates of different backgrounds because the company desires diverse employees? I'm not necessarily arguing against what you're saying. Just curious.[/quote] Not the PP, but yes, I would be comfortable with the following: Two equally qualified candidates, one of whom is demographically similar to existing staff, and one of whom represents an identity not currently represented. The latter gets the job on the basis of bringing a new perspective, which can only be good for business. [/quote] To be more concrete, let’s say 1 is a Jew and 1 Indian American (or Black, or Hispanic...) Because 2% Jews are are already over represented at Harvard, you would pick against the Jewish student. [/quote] If all else is equal, then yes, you should choose the one from the underrepresented group. Was this question supposed to be some kind of a gotcha? -a Jewish person [/quote] Who said “all else being equal?” The H lawsuit presupposes Asians with superior stats. [/quote] Stats aren’t everything. That’s the thing. And where the Tiger mommies go wrong.[/quote] Stats aren’t everything cuz it’s “holistic.” That’s where H goes wrong. All their URM grads are holding less than perfect sheepskin cuz stats aren’t everything. It’s “holistic” where the society at large evaluate their URM graduates who can’t perform as well as UCLA or UC Berkeley grads. [/quote] Well, your behavior in this thread and the demonstration of the poor way in which you think is a big clue why your child would be passed over, assuming your child exhibits similar characteristics and tendencies. You, simply, are not elite college material. Your child probably is not, either.[/quote] It’s a fact that URMs with H degrees don’t have the same life outcome as whites. [/quote] As another PP mentioned, this is due to systemic racism. [/quote] And in this case stems from the systemic racism against Asians in higher ed. When you discount an entire group of people whose ancestors come from 50 very different countries with thousands of different ethnic groups and hold them to higher standards than another group of people that can get in with lesser standards- employers know. It’s no secret. The accounts for diversity in employment are based on all things equal. Two candidates with equal stats and you want diversity then you go with the candidate that fits that. College is not all things equal therefore when going for diversity it’s unequal. It’s expecting the Asian kid to work much harder for the same shot at admission. [/quote] As Harvard practices “holistic” criteria, so do the employers. Can you blame them? Even H law school and H medical school do not choose their classes entirely from Harvard undergrads. They routinely reject Harvard grads in favor lesser private or public colleges and unis. [/quote]
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