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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Two points:

1. College tuition soared because the federal government made loans easy to get. The $$ was virtually unlimited, and the colleges found ways to spend it. Now, there’s a whole generation of students who regret their choices, but it’s hard to put that genie (plus all his overpaid college admin friends) back in the bottle.

2. Countries that have free universities have lower college attendance rates than the US, and generally select for college potential at a much younger age than the US.  I’m sure this wouldn’t affect any of your special children, but limiting the # of kids that can go to college hurts the upwardly mobile.

Oh, and one more — government-funded college is a huge giveaway to the UMC/rich.  It’s an incredibly regressive government program. [/quote]
No, students that have the ability go to the universities and those that don't go to technical schools. So if you are very wealthy but have an idiot for a child, which you in particular well might, your little idiot isn't getting into school for free.

Government-funded college is not a huge giveaway to the UMC/rich because the UMC/rich are being taxed proportionally higher to pay for the college. These are individuals that could pay to go to private colleges themselves if they cared to.

But continue arguing why government-funded college is devilish while driving your CR-V. [/quote]

It’s hard to know where to start with this.

How do you think “ability” is determined in these countries?  Standardized tests.  Who does well on standardized tests?  Rich/middle class kids. Kids of the educated.  Not poor kids.  Kids of people who could pay for college “if they cared to” as you say.

I agree that we have done a lot of kids a huge disservice by convincing them that learning a trade is a bad thing. But, giving a kid a standardized test and taking them off the college track in middle school is going to miss a lot of talent that happens to be late-blooming (not to mention the kids that don’t have parents who will push them to prepare for the tests).

Your sentence about taxes is just gibberish.  The “tax” you are referring to doesn’t exist, and if we were to tax the rich for education, why would we turn around and give it back to them?  That is pointless and the definition of a regressive program.  In reality, working people pay taxes, and the government decides what to spend it on. I believe that spending it on making college free for the relatively well off people who make up the vast majority of college students is not a wise use of taxpayer dollars.

I have no idea what CR-Vs have to do with anything.  I’m a person who paid off my student loans and has saved a significant sum to pay for my kid’s college, and that’s appropriate.  I don’t need free college for my kid. I’m all for spending $$ on the kids who do need help (but not for those families who don’t have the $$ because they would really rather have a house at the beach). [/quote]

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