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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Submitted too soon: so yes any Caltech kid would have been accepted to Harvard or Yale stem because they are desperate for that level of talent.[/quote]

No, that is completely untrue, and you have no evidence of it.

Note I am not saying their engineering programs are as strong as caltech's.  I dispute that any kid accepted there is an auto accept to HYP.  No one is, not even a presidential child (although that is close).

It's a stupid statement not borne out by facts and disproved by a quick look at a top HS naviance scattergrams.  Please stop.[/quote]
I don't think you understand how admissions works. Any POTUS's child who applies to Harvard/Yale while president would be an auto-admit. Those are the type of kids that make up the bottom 25% of the class at Harvard.

Your individual HS naviance scattergrams are irrelevant.

Harvard and Yale engineering both look at prospective majors. They are both desperately trying to improve their schools of engineering. 
Top engineering students - meaning the best of the best, not just great - with interest in engineering will always pick MIT/Caltech over Harvard/Yale. Ergo Harvard/Yale would accept them.

They could easily get into Harvard/Yale if it was based on scores as Caltech has higher scores across the board, but on top of that these top engineering students have extremely strong EC's based on engineering/math/sciences in order to get into Caltech, and that's a shoe-in for Harvard/Yale engineering because they want more top engineering students.

Caltech's acceptance rate is 7% - same as Yale's - despite being a heavily engineering school that not many people know about and having a heavily self-selected applicant pool. 
The reality is if every Joe's kid didn't apply to especially Harvard or Yale as a "shooting for the stars" or shooting for Ivies, their acceptance rate would be far higher than Caltech's.

So yes based on scores and EC's any student that's accepted into Caltech would be accepted into Harvard/Yale engineering.[/quote]

And this is where your immense ignorance is apparent.

Many kids who get into Caltech are rejected by HYP.  Look it up.  Or ask some.

No one is an auto-admit into HYP. No one. Your statement is false just as if you said “every kid who gets accepted to Harvard would be auto-admit at Yale”.  Not how it works.  You are wrong wrong wrong.[/quote]

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