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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Quality-wise, or at least value for money, most schools are on the decline.  The U.S. system of higher education is the most expensive in the world, but we are in the middle of the pack on degree attainment.  The change in college cost has exceeded the rate of inflation for over three decades and student loan debt exceeds all consumer debt other than mortgages.   There is a huge bloat of administrators at many schools and teaching is getting passed increasingly to adjuncts.

Most people here are actually interested in which schools are falling in rankings and popularity, which is different from quality.   More than anything, USNWR measures inputs (resources, selectivity).  Quality would be an output.  You can have excellent steel, glass, etc., but the finished car may be a lemon.   USNWR may even penalize quality.  Demanding technical schools tend to have lower graduation rates, but that is often attributable to having to cram more into 4 years.  The new "social mobility" inputs don't really have anything to do with educational quality, and the percentage of Pell grants varies widely by state demographics.[/quote]

I agree with you except for the “degree attainment” part. The U.S., as a whole, admits thousands of kids into its colleges who would never get in to college in most European countries. Also, it is well known that grade inflation is persistent in American colleges. Do you really want more of it so that more kids graduate? [/quote]

Obama did poor and low achieving students a TREMENDOUS disservice when he seemed college for everyone.  Some many ill equipped students thought they were entitled and took out massive loans all but to drop out and be saddled with the debt but no diploma.[/quote]

Thanks Obama!  Him and his damned “seeming”.

//PP wtf are you blatting about?[/quote]

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