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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Returning to the original question, I would not spend out of state tuition to send my kids for undergraduate studies at one of University of California schools (such as Berkeley or UCLA) due to terrible budget concerns and overcrowding that cause [b]kids to take 6 years to graduate, on average.    [/b][/quote]

I don’t understand this comment. [b]The four year grad rate at UCLA and Berkeley is 77% and 75% [/b]respectively. With the exception of UVA and W&M, that’s right on par with other top publics. [/quote]

yeah but 77% is Terrible.  UVa is like 94%. [/quote]

Cmu is only 72%. Lehigh’s is similar but I can’t remember what it is[/quote]
It's because UCLA and UC Berkeley have a large and rigorous engineering programs, along with a large number of community college transfer and a more middle-class population of kids who work part-time during college.

UVA and W&M are liberal arts schools, basically. And they have the wealthiest kids among publics. Although I find it hard to believe UVA's 94% 4-year rate considering the community college students they must take in.[/quote]

UVA is 89% 4 year.  The calculations in Common Data Set are for cohorts.  It is only including those that enrolled first time in a year and then calculating the percentage of those that graduated 4 or 6 years later.  The guaranteed programs with community colleges may mean graduating classes are larger than entering classes.

Regarding UCLA and Berkeley, they report more difficulty getting classes they need on sites like Niche than UVA or W&M, which may also be a factor.

There are likely many factors in graduation rates.  I'd say entering student preparation, difficulty of programs, difficulty of getting required classes, financial situation, and how much the student likes the school are all factors.[/quote]

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