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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly. [/quote] They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore. [/quote] There are at least 67k+ deaths now in the US over the last 3 months. If we didn’t stay in place how many deaths do you think there would have been this year? [/quote] And that count isn’t even accurate. They’re adding people who haven’t even tested positive for COVID to that count. CDC revised the numbers to 36k deaths from COVID. [/quote] Where do you get your crappy news? The CDC didn’t “revise” numbers. That is just a different count - # of death certificates, which is a delayed statistic. If anything we are [i]undercounting[/i]. As of a week ago, the US had 66,000 more deaths than expected. With far fewer automobile deaths, gun deaths, etc. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-reports-66000-more-deaths-than-expected-so-far-this-year/2020/04/29/b6833548-8a68-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html The question still stands: How many deaths do you think we would have had this year if we didn’t shelter in place? [/quote] Umm it’s on the CDC website itself. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm Of course, the media won’t report this because they want you scared. [/quote] GMAFB. You don’t get your news from the CDC website. You heard this misinformation on FoxNews or similar. And you happily eat it up even if it’s not true. Look at your link - it even says it’s not the current number of deaths because of the delayed reporting: [i]“It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods.”[/i] It’s not a “revised” number - it’s just a different metric. Again, how many people do you think would have died this year if we didn’t shelter in place? [/quote] Also from CDC’s website: “[i]In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), [b]it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely.[/b] However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible“[/i] The numbers are inaccurate. Period.[/quote] If these diagnoses are being faked the hospitals will get slapped with MASSIVE FCA lawsuits. No way hospitals are lying about these. [/quote] +1 And, again, if anything we are [i][u]undercounting[/u][/i]. As of a week ago, the US had 66,000 more deaths than expected. With far fewer automobile deaths, gun deaths, etc. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-reports-66000-more-deaths-than-expected-so-far-this-year/2020/04/29/b6833548-8a68-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html [/quote]
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