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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So Illinois is not using the rooms as intended and that definitely should be corrected. But at that doesn’t mean they are abused everywhere. SN kids can’t hurt people, even their teachers. I can’t believe some parents are okay with that.[/quote]

Who said it was ok?[/quote]

We are talking about whether it's okay to hurt the child. Pushing the kid into a seclusion room is causing psychological danger and often also physical danger. Clearing a room is not intended to leave teachers to get injured. They should absolutely not be in danger's way and able to move around the room out of harm's way which will be safer than trying to force an out of control flailing child into a room/closet.[/quote]

Again, the teacher and other students shouldn’t have to move “out of harms way” AT SCHOOL.[/quote]

Plus 1.

The parents should be called to pick up their child when he/she is out of control.[/quote]
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Are parents of children with behavioral disabilities not allowed to have a job? Should they just wait around to pick up their child because their child is not receiving an appropriate education? Or should we just make a decision that these disabled children should just not get any education?[/quote][/b]

School is not daycare. We are reminded of this by DCUM every time we complain about bogus snow days. If a parent can’t get their kid’s behavior under control then yes they or the nanny or grandma or I don’t care who, need to come get the kid. This should not be the school’s job. And it’s incredibly expensive to tax payers. The county has to slash other budgets to cough up the money for all the extra staff to deal with these kids. A disproportional amount of money is spent on them and it’s not right.[/quote]

Wow. Just wow. Karma is a bitch and you should be ready.[/quote]

Whatever. No one thinks this is the school’s job other than SN activist parents. And we all resent the money and resources it costs the school district. No one believes it’s fair for one class to have 30 kids and 1 teacher and another class to have 7 kids and 3 teachers.[/quote]

A study was done in the 1990s (met one of the people who did the study at a conference) of the financial burden experienced by parents of children with emotional disturbance in terms of additional expenses although it did not include lost work opportunity, and at the time they came up with a tally of $18k.

And in fact, if a pattern of parents being called because of a child being "out of control" developed, that constitutes a change of placement and requires a manifestation determination process.

And for whether it "is the school's job" are you by any chance the teacher my DS had in 6th grade who complained that if a parent has SN they should be home schooled or placed in private school? You might read the history of the struggle to obtain educational rights for all students, which grew directly out of the civil rights movement for African-Americans. [/quote]

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