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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] My daughter also was not admitted with all O's in 2nd grade (I mean all now including 3rd qtr.), NNAT 135 (99%) and high COGATs (cumulative 95%), GBRS 10. School admitted they do not inflate the GBRS and that a 10 from them was a good score. She recently took the WISC and scored 129 (97%), also was tested at the same time in reading and math, perfoming at 4th grade level in each. Our child gets perfect grades and is in the top 3% in IQ. How could she not be admitted on appeal to an advanced academic program that includes the top 11% of the field? If she does not get in on appeal, she will be dropping back a level in key classes next year as she is now in the highest level reading and math groups. That is, with most of her classmates in those groups going to GT, the "highest" non Level IV classes will be made of those in the group behind her.[/quote] Just trying to figure out why she was not admitted... What were her CogAT sub scores? Was there one that was notably "average" or two that were average and one that was high and caused the high composite score? It seems as though high NNAT scores are more common than high CogAT scores, so I wonder if the committee puts more stock in the CogAT. With good work samples and a solid appeal package, it seems as though your daughter may be found eligible on appeal. [/quote] Cogats were Quant 119, non Verbal 122, Verbal 128. These Cogat scores are at or above the mean Cogat scores of the admitted pool in the data made public from the report referenced in this thread (2005-6, last data available). Roughly half of the admitted class in the report scored below these numbers. Here is the link again. http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/Fairfax/Board.nsf/39c6389c088be51585256e56000c1bf2/2b1b2b585a5d305e852570fb004f3f9f/$FILE /Gifted%20and%20Talented%20Center%20Program.pdf I believe that the size of the program has increased since 2005 so I doubt that the average scores of those admitted has increased by any degree since 2006. Your response confirms my frustration -- no specific clear idea why she was not admitted (and you even say only "may" in terms of her appeal). The process and the criteria of admission is unclear and it seems as though no one is willing to share the "back room" inner workings of the review committee, even though it is a public school system. Remember, those running this program are public servants, I doubt such a process run by the government could be done in such secrecy. There is no third party independent process audit/oversight that I can see. Seems that the parents' association should have some role in assessing the fairness of the admissions process. I want to make her appeal package the best it can be and address the deficiencies, but without specifics, it is hard to do so. It seems the standard play is to "take the WISC, submit the new test (even if it only mimics the two prior standardized test scores) and pray for the best". Do you think some borderline applicants are intentionally put on the bubble until they assess how many kids elect to go to centers versus stay at their local schools in order to manage facility capacity issues? [/quote]
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