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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Sure, regularize immigration. My point is that the anti-immigrant people around here seem to be more focused on deporting all illegal immigrants and stopping all entries. If that happens, we no longer have enough people. That position, I would argue, is solely one that is fueled by being anti-immigrant, not by rationally seeking out policy solutions. As for "crisis mode" ... the crisis is largely created by Trump's propaganda. The long-term trend is for border arrests going down: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44319094 [/quote] You are misstating your opponent's position to make your own look better. No one here advocated stopping ALL entries. The argument to deport all illegal immigrants (as they should be) is not driven by anti-immigrant people - as they typically have no problem with legal entrants. It's driven by the passionate rejection of the current practice where people stream across the border not caring about rules, not caring about lines, not caring about anything but their own desires. People who opposed illegal immigration feel as if the folks crossing the border looked them in the eye and said, I don't care about your rules, I don't care about what you say, I'm getting in. I'm not sure what your argument is in favor of keeping these people over those who have waited in line, sometimes for years, paying thousands of dollars in fees, going through lengthy background checks, doing everything by the book and STILL sometimes not getting in. Border arrests going down doesn't mean necessarily that fewer people are crossing over. It may just mean that fewer people are getting arrested. Bring proof first that the arrest to crossing ratio has remained steady. [/quote] So you just don't like illegal immigrants they are a moral affront to you. Yet, you still need to accept that our economy depends on them, and deporting them all would be a wasteful disaster. The argument for not deporting them is that it would be shooting our nose to spite our faces. If you can't put aside your animus to see that, then you admit you hate immigrants more than you care about the wellbeing of the country overall. [/quote]
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