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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"great" != public U undergrad

Only oblivious Tailgate State alums would ever say such a thing. It's a fine college, but it's huge, and tends to attract a [b]very[/b] obnoxious out-of-state subset who want to party, do drugs and leave with an easy bachelors -- kids rejected from USC, Penn and Georgetown.[/quote]

Yes, it's this big secret of U of M grads. We coast through our four years in a perpetual drug-addled state en route to an easy bachelor's degree. And thank god because it seems to have been a major admission criterion for all the top grad schools my friends and I attended: e.g., Harvard, Yale, Stanford. And, yes, I am so fortunate that I turned down one of the schools you mentioned above because I really wanted to put an asterisk on my cv to distinguish they my bachelor's degree was in fact an "easy" one. [/quote]

There are like 40,000 undergrads at Go Blue U, of course *some* kids go onto good grad programs. Nobody is denying that--even Arizona State sends some kids to elite grad programs. But your reputation proceeds you. Go Blue U has always gone out of its way to admit a very obnoxious subset of kids who have a chip on their shoulder that they didn't get into Penn or USC.[/quote]

Yes, my point exactly.  Not everyone and certainly not a majority fill your description It’s silly to say it’s all drunken greek system types because they’re not a majority. And I think they are idiots, btw. As I mentioned, I turned down another so-called prestigious school and I knew another kid who turned down Harvard (he was in state and got a full ride). You can go to a great grad school from Mich. And for those of us who have experience with Ivies as well, they’re biggest value stems from their brand name and networks. Ivy grad schools can be highly impersonal, professors are more worried about their careers than teaching and don’t really provide a better education, just a more privileged one.[/quote]

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