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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] and apparently it's OK for Christians to attempt to convert atheists, but not vice-versa. I suppose because there's something in the Bible about converting the heathen and giving everyone that CHristians come in contact with a chance to get to heaven. CHristians go door to door proseletizing -- [b]atheists don't.[/b] [/quote] You admitted above that the whole point of this thread is to proselytize for atheism. To “help” those who are having doubts.[/quote] Knoking on doors is a quite a bit more agressive than posting on an internet forum.[/quote] You speak far, far too broadly here. The vast majority of Christians do not actively proselytize, nor is it encouraged by most Christian churches (of which there are many varieties). Most Christians agree with you that it is not OK to go around trying to convert people. [/quote] While MOST "Christians do not actively proselytize", [b]NO atheists go door to door.[/b] [/quote] No true. Even atheist proselytize, they just don't call it that. There is this thing called google, check it out. [/quote] Sure sounds like pp couldn't find anything online about atheists going door to door trying to sell atheism -- thus the link-less challenge to check out "this thing called google" PP also fails to identify what atheists call their proselytizing -- maybe it's publicly saying that they are atheist or writing things like "The Bible is an Immoral book." I wonder what pp thinks about Christians publicly stating that they are Christian or [b]that the Bible is a moral book[/b]?[/quote] NP here, but I think the OP point of the post was to argue against that very claim. And she provided some evidence in the form of Bible verses supporting slavery. Some posters pushed back and said she was taking the verses out of context, but failed to provide the context that would make the support of slavery "moral" save for [b]some arguments about the Old Testament law is not replaced by New Testament[/b]. That was countered by some words of Jesus that stated the opposite. Then we also have our own American history of slavery and using the Bible to support the institution. There were a couple posters who made the argument that the Bible is not moral or immoral. I think that's a valid argument and wished they'd posted more. I probably agree with them. However, given that the Bible is cited often amongst politicians as the moral foundation for our laws it's important that there is push back on that. I think it's just ridiculous to use an ancient book that so clearly supports slavery as any moral foundation to modern law. [/quote] Posters repeatedly told you the [b]exact opposite[/b]: Old Testament law [b]IS[/b] replaced by New Testament law. They said this again and again, and even provided verses from Matthew to support it.[/quote] How do you rationalize the quotes from Jesus stating the exact opposite?[/quote] Context. The Pharisees were trying to trap him, as is clear from the surrounding scene-setting, but his wording is actually nuanced. However, I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith, so I’ll stop there and just leave it at that. [/quote] Could be that pp is not arguing in good faith and is trying to squelch the discussion by accusing others -- and is just leaving it at that for lack of a substantive argument. [/quote]
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