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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hopkins is almost all rich (70% make over $120K) and all asian/middle eastern Americans and international. I think it may be 35% white. It is a typical international type of undegraduate school. Not a lot of partying, not a lot of sports, not a lot of socializing. The main and only goal is study and get into graduate school. That is not a bad thing, but it isn't the experience many Americans want. For my child, she was in a top rigorous private school and wanted nothing to do with the same atmosphere in college. She wants some socializing, school spirit, and lots of friends and memories. She still chose a top school, but wanted a more social feel. For kids that don't want the American fluff, chose JHU. It is no nonsense. Also, JHU is less than 10% in-state. People around here know it is in a terrible neighborhood. Unless they truly want to be a doctor, all the other ivy's seem more appealing to kids around here. [/quote] New poster here. I went to public health graduate school at Hopkins and met my husband who was in medical school. I lived in Charles Village and did most of my studying on the main campus (Homewood). I agree with this poster and the one before who's dad was a professor. While we had a great time in the greater Hopkins/Baltimore community in our 20's, I would never want my kids to go there for undergrad. It's difficult to explain but it just always felt like a pretty soulless and competitive place. Think of your typical pre-med undergraduate organic chemistry course and then extrapolate it to almost an entire university. I came from a small liberal arts college and my husband from a large state school and both of our undergraduate colleges had about 100 times the joy and life of Hopkins undergrad. it's just dull. And seemingly very competitive. Something like 99% of the kids are pre-med (I exaggerate but it's pretty darn high). That does not make for a fun environment. [/quote] Doe JHU have an inordinately high success rate placing those pre-med undergrads in medical school? I mean wouldnt your odds be much better to go to, a state flagship or a 20-40 ranked SLAC and be THE kid with the great GPA? I mean there must be JHU kids who are middle to low of the pack at JHU who never get into medical school but would otherwise shine at a diff school. [/quote] Their pre-med office webpage states that 80% of their graduates who apply to medical school are accepted. Somewhere else I read said that up to 40% of their graduates will apply to medical school. So not 99% but pretty darn high for any university. [/quote] Ok 32% (80%*40%) meets "inordinately high" but I still think there probably plenty of wash-out along the way. Ppl who go in intending to apply going in who dont survive the competition. I went to Penn (history major) where this was also typical. I had friends said at the end of school they should have gone somewhere else where they would have been a pre-med star but at least they had fun along the way and went on to successful law or consulting careers :) :) [/quote] Plus you have all the biomedical engineering kids and other science majors trying to get into competitive PhD programs. And the straight up engineers. It's a very brainy. main and science oriented type of place. Lots of studying going on at all times. The main library is packed on the weekend evenings. [/quote] We walked through campus on the most gorgeous imaginable Saturday afternoon in October...and yet still seemingly every student was in the library. It was at that point my child realized it was not the school for him. [/quote] lol. I'm the person who wrote that the library is packed on Saturday nights. It truely is. There are about 4 levels underground and the deeper you go, the busier it gets. It's open until 3am daily. My friend who went there (and on to an elite medical school) said that most of his undergraduate memories are from one of the two libraries. He used to sleep in the one. It's an interesting culture. [/quote]
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