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[b]So this is what I don’t understand. They travel thousands of miles to come here to escape a toxic culture in their home country only to continue to live by this toxic culture here in the US[/b]? I’m sorry for their struggle but heck, they sky has just opened up for them with opportunities galore! Why continue to live defeated lives when they have attained freedom? Let’s empower them and challenge them to live better lives. I have been where they have been and it angers me to see them waste opportunities. They might as well have stayed put in their home country. Sorry to anyone I offend but it offends me when immigrants waste their freedom because there are so many others who couldn’t make it here that would’ve loved these opportunities.[/quote]

This statement is so laughable. We are talking about PTA participation for crying out loud. What makes you think that their disinterest in it is a sign of being defeated. Trust me, for them, coming to this country,  being able to live here is priceless. The fact that their kids are[b] getting a US education so that  they can have better lives[/b] than them is the ultimate dream. They don't see it as toxic at all. They could care less about PTA meetings. [/quote]

Neither of you guys understand immigrants.

We come here, mostly because of we can earn more money here. That's it. Culture? Sky opening up? Priceless? US education? 
What are you talking about? You really think everything is heaven here compared to other countries?
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Ummm.  Maybe don't believe everything you read on the internet?

So you are affirming the assertion that immigrants are just here to take, take, take from Americans, without any loyalty or buy-in to American ideals.  But we should welcome you with open arms, so that we can spend $200,000 to educate each of your children.[/quote][/quote]

PP here.

Apparently you completely misunderstand what I said.

I am an immigrant.

1. I come here not because of the great love to this country, but because I thought (still think but things could change) I could get paid more for a decent job here. Other factors like culture etc are not what I "admire". There are things better here and also thing better at my home country but most of those are not deciding factors (so don't believe the crap like "immigrants come here because of the freedom they enjoy" - I am not saying that I don't enjoy the freedom - it is just not that important. If I didn't get paid enough, I would have left).

2. I stay here also because of I am paid decently.

3. "Loyalty"? Yes, I am "loyal" to this country, as required by law, as I said in my oath. I am a law-abiding citizen. If you can think of anything in addition to what is required by law that one has to do to show his/her "loyalty", please state it.

4. Whether you welcome immigrants or not, should not depends on what we "want". It should depend on what we can bring. Yes, I get paid decently but that is because whoever hires me sees the value in it. And I pay taxes which benefit you all.

5. I strongly oppose illegal immigration, for reasons very clear - it is not fair to us (this refers to the legal immigrants) and it does not benefit us (this refers to us all).
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