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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To PP above (“‘someone else’” doesn’t pay for it”). I think you misunderstand public services. None of your examples are like maternity leave. Maybe you don’t drive on highways, but this country can’t function without them. The transportation of goods and people is key to our economy. Have you seen a country without highways? Did it seem prosperous to you?  Likewise, public schools aren’t just a service for parents, like you’re doing parents a favor by paying. [b]They are a key component of our democracy.[/b] We all need educated citizens to vote.

You brought up disability insurance. I am not against disability insurance, and I think the way it’s used now to support maternity leave as well as other illnesses is fine. The key is that it supports other situations besides pregnancy, and that is has rules surrounding its use (size of company, etc).

[b]This thread is not about disability insurance. It’s about individual employers (not businesses with 50 or more employees) giving their nannies paid maternity leaves out of their own pocket[/b].[/quote]

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PP, would you pay for highway improvement voluntarily out of your own pocket if you drive on that highway multiple times a day? Nope, it's financed from your taxes. Would you give a check to a public school teacher to supplement their salary? No, that's not your role or responsibility as individual. Same goes for the maternity leave.  Organize, lobby politicians, make it a state priority like in NY or CA. Then it will become a reality. Dumping on individual employers on the internet is misplaced and frankly ridiculous. Placing the burden on families will result in one thing only - fewer jobs for nannies, or lower wages, because the employers would have to figure in double the costs to cover maternity and a substitute nanny.[/quote]

That's a poor comparison.  Hundreds of thousands use a highway.  Public school teachers serve a classroom.  Yet an employer makes a choice to hire a nanny to serve only their family.  That means their employment safety net is you.  Would it be ideal that there is a national insurance system that would cover these leaves for small employers in the future?  Of course, But for now if you're all refusing to pay for a maternity leave for your pregnant nannies, you're pretty cold human beings.  [/quote]

You yourself are very cold, if for all these pages of posts you can't understand that families can't afford it. The only way it works is when there is agreement at the national level (e.g. Canada) or at the state level, as in examples above. Pinning it on a single family doesn't work. What to do if the substitute nanny goes on maternity too? take out a second mortgage? Nope, no dice.[/quote]

No, I am not cold.  People with nannies are wealthier than the general population.   If you can't afford to use that wealth to treat the employee raising your children with dignity, don't get a nanny.  We have had a nanny for many years, and prioritize being able to cover her paid leave time.  Yes, this means we don't take many vacations or have an updated home.  But treating my only employee the way people deserve to be treated is worth it, and it's the example I hope my children take from me. [/quote]

You don't know finances of all the people with nannies. If your angle to soak the wealthy - by all means, get involved in political campaigns, etc to bring this agenda forward. That can and should be done through taxation.

Math-wise, daycare for 2 children costs more than employing a nanny. Some people do nanny shares, because they can't afford their own full time nanny.

Furthermore, you have yet to explain how everybody taking their kids to daycare and firing their current nannies would help the said nannies?[/quote]

If you don't think someone paying an employee a salary of approximately $40k a year is wealthier than the general population (where the average US household  income is 45K), then you aren't very well-informed.   There are many cheaper options than nannies-including in-home daycares, care by neighbors etc.   When I was in a nanny share (because I couldn't afford a nanny of my own), we clearly set out what leave we would pay for (and yes, both employers of the nanny discussed sick leave and maternity leave obligations.)   Furthermore, I don't know why you would assume "everybody" would fire their nannies if they had to pay maternity leave.  People don't like paying for leave, because we prefer our employees be as little cost as possible, but most people with nannies, I daresay could afford it.  The ones who can't should find another outlet for their champagne tastes, because someone else who can afford it will hire their nanny and treat them better.[/quote]

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