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I'm not aware of any Christian denomination that preaches "salvation through works alone." It's either just through faith (aka acceptance of Jesus as your Lord and Savior), or through faith and works.

BTW -- I'm not Christian at all, but I'm just arguing that what you're saying isn't consistent with Christianity. Sure I believe a lot of religious traditions have legitimate ways of accessing the spiritual realm (which I don't believe involves communion with a Judeo-Christian God), but Christianity sure doesn't preach that. [/quote]

No. That is not true. [/quote]

It's not true that Christians believe the only way to God is through Jesus? Then what, exactly, do Christians mean when they say "Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior"? [/quote]

NP. Plenty of Christians believe in salvation through works. The debate about “works vs. faith” has gone on for centuries, which should tell you that there have always been many Christians who think it’s about works. That’s why some (most?) of the mainline Protestant denominations believe that someone who doesn’t know Jesus but lives a “Christ-like” life can get into heaven. Jesus showed us how to live, and that’s how he “saved” mankind.[/quote]

I'm unaware of any Christian denomination that says you can have salvation by works alone. I thought it was either by faith alone or by faith and works.

Jesus didn't just give a good example of how to be a good person. You have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior (and, according to some but not all Christian denominations, be a good person) to get into heaven. Anyone who says otherwise is just misunderstanding what Christianity says about salvation. [/quote]

I’m so tired of non-Christians telling us what they think we should believe....[/quote]

[b]You're upset that I'm suggesting Christianity is, in large part, accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? You're upset that I'm pointing out that salvation by works alone isn't a thing?[/b][/quote]

This is false. The Pope has said even atheists can get into heaven.  As far as "salvation," salvation from what?[/quote]

Only a fraction of Christians follow the pope.  [/quote]

ah, so a schism within the faith?  A theological dispute?  Not surprising.  Still I think the Pope is probably more of an authority on Christianity than you are.[/quote]

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