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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]my kid made it into yale EA. She has a talent on the national level, is 1st in her class, took a ton of APs and got great LOR etc. 1500 SAT. She is in a group chat with accepted students and the GC is 250+ ppl so far. They all have "something". High grades and tests are not enough, not even close.

FY!- we make 175K HHI, have another in college and our total cost is 18,979. The ivy league is extremely generous. [/quote]

Congratulations. My kid is at Yale now and loves it. For Yale what I notice is that they select happy, self-assured, non-competitive kids, just wait until you start meeting her classmates. They appreciate what their classmates bring to the table. Maybe it is the same at other schools but I stopped thinking about it as being a "lottery" there is definitely a method to the madness. They really think hard about what each kid brings to the community, stats are a bar but the least important IMO. [/quote]

It is a managed lottery.  I've interviewed for a HYPS school for over 20 years (probably about 75 kids total), and from what I've seen, which admittedly is a very small sample, you can establish a bar over which people need to be.  However, of the group that is over the bar, and it's a significant portion, I see no rhyme or reason for why one kid got in over the other.   With the qualifications of kids these days, it is impossible to make a meaningful distinction between them.  
  
And I don't believe for a second that squishy criteria like that cited above is that differentiator.  The admissions office cannot determine that any of their applicants, whom they will likely never meet, are happy, self-assured or non-competitive.   (I also don't believe that 'non-competitive' is a word I would ever associate with anyone attending any Ivy League school or equivalent). This is a human process and, as such, inherently unreliable.  A tremendous amount of luck is involved. If it wasn't, you'd see the same kid who got into Cornell get into Penn and vice versa.  That doesn't happen on a consistent basis.

If your kid got in, great. That's wonderful news.  Celebrate your good fortune, because for most kids, some amount of good fortune is involved.
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I agree wholeheartedly. My DC is at an IVY and some of the parents I have met that preen over themselves and their kids - i wish I could tell them it is luck. One parent at Princeton even told me that their younger daughter didn’t want to apply to Princeton as their elder is there so that is why she is at Dartmouth! I was going to puke![/quote]

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