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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However: 1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free. 2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it. 3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places. [/quote] And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points): 1) they’re not free 2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get 3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty[/quote] https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?[/quote] Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register. [/quote] Listen to yourself. The right to vote is so precious, which means ND should be doing what they can to ensure everyone who is eligible can vote. If you suppress 5000 people's votes in order to prevent one fraudulent vote that is NOT protecting the right to vote. It is [b]not[/b] and there is no way you can convince me that is a fair trade off. If it were you being stopped at the polls and told you couldn't vote because some clerk somewhere wrote your name down incorrectly as Elise instead of Elisa, would you take it lying down? If you were told your address was no longer valid in their system, would you take it lying down? Would you say thank god they prevented one person from voting illegally? I don't think so. [/quote]
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