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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yup, kid was troubled and all sorts of warning signs.

Yes, social services and FBI shoulda/coulda done more to intervene.

Agree, we need to better treat and address mental illness.

We still need sensible gun laws. Period. Stop deflecting.[/quote]

It's not about needing to treat and address mental illness. You answer is in your first statement. Both agencies completely failed the public. That is HUGE. Why won't anything be done about it? Because....GUNS...OMG....GUNS!

I am outraged that agencies like these didn't just fail, they failed spectacularly and completely.[b] And what about the social media companies that seem so efficient at attacking conservative posts, but let the types of posts this kid kept putting through go by the wayside. Where is the flagging system? Where are the internal departments that one can ping to get them to look at post A or B, and turn them over to police in that jurisdiction if they deem them violent or disturbing? This kid didn't just post ONE photo, he posted a STREAM of photos and comments. Not one raised eyebrow from staff so hell-bent on suspending folk like Ben Shapiro or Raheem Kassam?[/b][/quote]

And how do you propose we "treat and address" mental illness? Or the FBI failure? Or about the failure of Facebook? Why is it that you are open to action on ALL of these fronts but open to NONE on the issue of gun control?
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I'm not the one who is saying that treating and addressing mental illness is the main problem here. I don't think the problem is prescribed drugs either. There are plenty of folks on prescribed meds who do not kill - in fact, the vast, vast majority. I, further, didn't say anything about not being open to ANY of issues re: gun control. More likely, this kid was the product of an abusive infancy and early childhood, and didn't bond. That's usually the cause of sociopathy.

I said that throwing blame around isn't practical, nor will it solve a thing. FACT: This guy was turned into the authorities. FACT: The authorities dropped the ball. FACT: This guy was posting very disturbing posts and statements to social media. FACT: Social media didn't notice or if they did, care enough about those posts to report them. FACT: Social media DOES care about posts by conservatives - enough to ban them for periods of time, so we know they ARE watching.

So I wonder why Raheem Kassam and Ben Shapiro are 'bad' and need to be banned, while posts from this shooter were not looked into, banned, nor reported. I believe there were folks that DID report this guy to the social media companies.

I am a tech person. I don't think it's responsible to HAVE a social media company unless you have a team of folk who's only responsibility is to handle reports of alarming posts, and sort through them, reporting those that meet a certain set of criteria (that can be developed in tandem with law enforcement).  Right now, these companies are highly politicized, which allows folks like this guy to slip through the cracks. [/quote]

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