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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the posters who think federal workers are overpaid and receive benefits that are excessive, there are many studies showing that when you do an apples to apples (education, skill level etc) comparison, the more educated federal worker is undercompensated compared to his/her private sector counterpart.
There is no doubt that lower level federal workers are paid more than their private sector counterparts but their presence in the federal civil service is shrinking.  The federal govt. just does not need as many clerical workers as it once did.

One example I found is the benefits package for Exxon Mobil - a large private sector company which also seeks to hire an educated and highly skilled workforce and pays them well.
Exxon Mobil workers get a generous pension AND 401K and great paid vacation time and great health care benefits.

https://local.exxonmobil.com/Family-English/HR/Files/Benefit_flyer.pdf[/quote]
The only area where government workers earn less than their counterparts in private industry is among those who hold advanced degrees. For those who hold 4-year college degrees, the pay is about the same but benefits are substantially higher among government workers, meaning that college grads do better with government work. The real discrepancy comes with high school grads, who earn significantly more and get substantially better benefits than their private sector counterparts.

So other than the minority who hold advanced degrees, government employees are overcompensated in comparison to private sector employees. But just watch....try to make an adjustment to bring things into parity, and the screaming will drown out a jet engine. Government employees are not entitled to superior compensation, particularly given how difficult it is to dump incompetent staff.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/42921
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Why do you think private sector employees don’t deserve adequate compensation?

All you people going on about how your awful employers don’t provide decent benefits and it’s like you wear that as a badge of honor, to work for miserly employers.

Join a union and demand what you deserve.  You’re the ones doing the work that creates wealth for your companies.  Demand you get compensated for it like you should, whether that’s salary, good insurance, vacation days, and yes, transit subsidies.[/quote]
That's not how it works in the real world. I can't believe how entitled you government workers are!  You just don't "demand" all sorts of expensive benefits and above-market salaries from your employer. That's such the liberal way: Gimme, gimme, gimme! Where is the money going to come from? It's not like government, where the "employer" simply goes deeper and deeper into trillions of debt. No....in the real world, the employer goes bankrupt. You can demand yourselves right out of employment altogether.

Plus, you're just assuming everyone would want to unionize. Again, you do not live in the real world. In the real world, if, for example, the admins get together to demand a raise from $60k to $70k with an extra week vacation, guess what? other admins will gladly step up and take the $60k.

Finally, we don't wear our less lofty salaries and benefits as a badge of honor! We are just pointing out that private sector employees, subject to MARKET FACTORS (and often their company's ability to pay more) should not be meeting the demands of public sector employees that exceeds their own compensation.

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Unionize.  That’s how you get decent benefits.  That’s how we have a 40 hour week and overtime.  Stop cowering to your fat cat ceos and try to elevate national standards for workers.  Employers will always try to take advantage of workers who don’t stand up for themselves.[/quote]

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