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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand why republicans aren't responding to this. (Except for sen. sasse and Lindsay Graham who happened to be at a town hall.)  I mean, either there is a watergate-level scandal or POTUS is crazy or is in cahoots with Putin. And yet not a peep? Truly-wtf, GOP?[/quote]
You are forgetting the third and most likely option: there was no wire tap and Trump was irresponsibility spreading an unfounded conspiracy theory. [/quote]
Jeff, honest question, do you really believe that the truth about this will matter much in the long run?  The current POTUS has been deliberately cultivating a diverse cornucopia of enemies since taking office, much of it with no evidence whatsoever.  Look at this forum itself for evidence of his success in "other-izing" brown-skinned immigrants of all legal status.

I have no idea if civil war is his end goal, but I no longer feel comfortable joking about disagreements in American politics leading to civil war...because it feels increasingly possible.[/quote]

Yes, I believe that the truth will matter in the long run. I grew up in Illinois -- the land of Lincoln -- where you will find statues of an monuments to Lincoln throughout the State. One that I frequently stopped at during car trips in my youth was engraved with a famous Lincoln quote: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Trump is able to fool his cadre of supporters all of the time. He is able to fool all of us some time (though we may not know which times), but he can't fool all of us all the time. When he says that Obama bugged Trump Tower, that is something that either happened or didn't happen. There is not a big gray area. If it didn't happen, Trump looks pretty crazy tweeting about it. If it did happen, there is a question of whether it was legal or not. Legal wire tapping would also be a problem for Trump. I suspect that even Trump doesn't believe there was illegal wiretapping, though that would be the best case for him. But, if the truth is that there was either no wiretapping, or legal wiretapping, Trump is not going to be able to fool all of us about it. Either of those scenarios will be a big problem for him. 
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So the IC has wide latitude of what is considered legal for communication interception for things that originating sea. This can be done to any foreign national/someone working for a foreign government without a warrant. Also any communication originated from overseas from a personal interest can be followed for a few degrees of separation in the US(think it is 10 degree of separation which is huge). If anything interesting in found(it this case it could be 2 degrees of separation from a presidential candidate- i.e. son in law talks to person of interest and then talks to Trumps electronically), they hack the phones and/or other devices of anyone associated turning on the audio and cameras. This would in reality be a bug of trump towers. They would not need a warrant for this and it would be very hard to prove. So it's not as simple as it seems. [/quote]

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