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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"I am the atheist in those quotes, you intentionally left out the quote I wad originally responding to of course. The one which asked why atheists were even commenting on the post at all." That's right. A perfectly legitimate question which some atheist or other (I don't know if it was you, who can tell?) responded with snark, to the effect that the reason atheists supposedly want to participate in such discussion is specifically to tell other people what should and should not inform those others' opinions; and that if those others choose not to entertain an atheists' viewpoints, that those others' opinions are illegitimate. Well, sorry to break the news to you, but no one needs to hear your opinion about anything before formulating their own opinion. It's optional. If a person thinks they kind of know how atheists think based on input in the past from many different other atheists, then perhaps they really DON'T need your particular point of view. But you know what? That's not YOUR call to make. You get to state your own opinions. You don't get to impose conditions on the formulation of someone else's opinion. So, the only reason for atheists to participate in the discussion is not to state their own opinion as part of the discussion, but to tell other people why the atheist thinks the other person is wrong. And that's what motivated the current thread. It's not really a mockery thread. This thread is a straight ahead admission of how most atheists view the world: "We don't want to listen to what other people think. We've already decided. Don't post here." Look up and down all of the posts in that other thread, of which this one is supposed to be a mocking, and show me anywhere that anyone stated that an atheist couldn't post whatever they wanted to post, anywhere. What burns the OP up is simply knowing that they have no right to force their opinions down anyone else's throat. Well, they don't. Nor do you.[/quote] +1 I think it's safe to say this thread has not turned out how OP envisioned. LOL![/quote] Op here. It's actually gone better than expected. I think there were some thoughtful posts on topic. Interspersed by the theists throwing BS and venom. Which I completely expected. Just proves that they are too sensitive to discuss anything rationally. The biggest relevation for me personally is that unhinged theists will stay unhinged and there isn't much point to engage productively. I mean, even the super patient, diplomatic atheist had no luck with any kind of civil discussion. They just pooped all over her sincere attempts. So going forward if I see some hateful posts come up on recent topics I'll just report to Jeff. It's not worth my time to do much more. [/quote] I'm a theist who has been gone from this discussion for most of the day. For the past few days I've been trying to curb the rude theist. Or at least, to the extent she's uncurbable, I've voiced my disagreement. For my handle, maybe "liberal theist." I can't understand why you're giving 21:25 a pass. If this is the pp who does nothing but obsessively taunt theists, then she's the most intransigent, unhinged person on this forum. Plus she just wants to lob grenades without intellectually engaging, as another pp pointed out. Everybody should be held accountable, including her. Is it because she's an atheist that you don't "see" her?[/quote]
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