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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If fertilized embryo is a person bye bye IVF. [/quote] This would make an incredible sci-fi movie plot... Alt Right government takes over all IVF clinics and orders EVERY SINGLE FROZEN EMBRYO brought to life using surrogates. These children are raised in a government-military esq compound and used as weapons for the alt right as "savior babies".[/quote] Seriously, this is relevant. If people really want to base a "right to life" on "being a person" AND hold that an embryo is a person, then those frozen embryos have exactly as much right to life.[/quote] No, they don't. As any reasonable person with an understanding of basic biology (not many people in this discussion, unfortunately) knows, it takes three things to create life: A sperm, an Egg and a Host in which to grow the life. "Frozen Embryos" do not have a host to give them life.[/quote] It also takes brain functioning and ability to live OUTSIDE the host to be a person. A heartbeat alone is not "life" as if it were a fully developed human. And, I would be absolutely disgusted if RvW was overturned. There is a thing called Stare Decisis. To just overturn 40 years of law -and abortion isn't the only privacy right at stake here- because some judgmental old men disagree with abortion is vile. Abortions will still happen. I'm not worried about me or my family. But, these red states that already have mostly made it impossibly to get abortions and birth control? Things will only nose dive there on that front. If it weren't for the innocent children who will be thrust on parents who maybe didn't want them, I'd say let them stay in the nests they've fouled and move on. [/quote]
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